Lytham Tiddler

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  1. presscall

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    A brief delve into the history of the company that made these stoves appears HERE together with my write-up on the Lytham 'Titch'. This is the Titch's big brother, the Tiddler

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    Titch is described as a 'miniature cooker', capable of taking most makes of self-sealing cartridges

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    The Tiddler on the other hand is 'compact' rather than miniature but can take most makes of cartridges (in fact, not just self-sealing ones but Campingaz-type pierceable carts)

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    The stove has a larger container to fit the extra parts to instal pierceable gas carts

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    All there is to accommodate in the Titch's box is the flexi hose and fittings

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    The Tiddler has to fit more in

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    Titch and Tiddler have the same jet and burner construction

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    The Tiddler has a pierceable gas cart fitting adaptor as well as a self-sealing cart adaptor

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    The pierceable gas cart adaptor incorporates a valve to enable the stove to be detached from the gas cart after use. Clever

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    The cutter/inlet pipe. That gas cart's an empty one of course

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    The seal to the gas cart holder is accomplished with that O-ring ...

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    ... and (TO BE CONTINUED)
     
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    ... by that neoprene disc on the inside of the holder cap that makes a seal against the top of the gas cart surrounding the central 'dimple'

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    To attach a gas cartridge, the wire stays are swung upwards to engage with three lugs on the holder cap, one of the lugs having a spring catch so that the final stay can be eased up and over the catch up a ramped lug arrangement. Secures it and can be unclipped to slide the stay off when the gas cart's empty

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    Green-coloured cart, blue-coloured cart, it makes no difference to the Tiddler - which of course ... fits most leading makes of cartridge

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    Perfect seal and ready to attach to or disconnect from the stove's flexi-hose at will

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    I pondered for a bit on the three holes, equi-spaced around the circumference of the lid. It soon became obvious what they're for - as a steady to enable the lid to be used as a base for the stove

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    Useful output

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    ... now powered by a self-sealing gas cart

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    John
     
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    Another brilliant presentation, John.

    Titch and Tiddler - typical quirky British. :D
     
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    Those two are very clever designs indeed!
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    Where did you get that one from then John? I like them both a lot.
    Si
     
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    excellent! the printing on the labels is soooooo
    early seventies! takes me back to my days in the scouts and school, nostalgia is getting better as i get older!

    Presscall for moderator
    (you know it makes sense)
     
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    I don't normally like gas stove although I do own a couple of 'vanilla' models, these though are fantastic, great find

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    Excellent post with the usual top quality photos.
     
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    Thanks all!

    Si, it was an ebay find ages ago. I've only just got around to getting the details on here.

    The flexi hose, fabric-covered rubber, was a bit too fragile for my taste so I cut off the crimp fittings (Oetiker brand) and swapped it for a modern, steel braided sheathed, hose.

    The stove-end and control valve-end fittings weren't equipped with the usual hose barbs, but had un-tapered plain shanks with a raised lip for the crimp to butt up to. The difference in length of the shanks determined the respective lengths of the tubing crimps I used - pipe fittings (plasic pipe connector liners I think)

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    I used the four-jaw lathe chuck in the technique I outlined HERE . Photo's from that post and not this job

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    Job done

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    John
     
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    excellent presentation, John. And another fine job you did. Once you retire you can make a fettler-shop - I`m shure I know enough customers :lol:

    Peter
     
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    I too was fascinated by the sight of the little Titch when I found it at a car boot sale for £1 still attached to a half full gas canister, cute little stove. I have a Military no 2 stove as yet unexplored, a Primus no 5, an Optimus no 8 copy and my amusing little Stesco coiler, makes me laugh every time I light it it's almost too simple to work, but it does.
     
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    Lovely little stoves. I never find anything like that! ;(
     
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    I put a search on ebay for the lytham's after seeing this thread back in 2015 and have just scored a titch, nice

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    I bought a Tich and Tiddler as a pair and they came with a couple of tee pieces to connect them both to one cylinder. I still use them occationally.
     
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    Something on the lines of this ALP version featured by the late, great Bryan Miller I suppose.

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    Yes indeed.

    Kovea makes an adapter for puncture-type canisters, which works much the same way. See MercatorGear - KOVEA P-Adapter KA-1004

    Quirky and fun. It reminds me of the cartoons in the 1985 BBC miniseries Blott on the Landscape

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    I don't own a a gas operated stove , the way you have rigged the titch and going ETC. Looks to me like it would pretty much compete with even the modern stuff . I like the way the lid connects to the wind screen and requires no other tin pieces . Great write up and a very good example of what the forerunners of todays stoves could do . Will the jetting and burner handle liquid as well as vapor feed ? Seems it was ahead of its day . WR