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Coleman 457G Handy Gas Plant - Reloaded

Discussion in 'Coleman No:457' started by idahostoveguy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. idahostoveguy

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    Coleman 457G Handy Gas Plant (HGP).

    I had been looking for an HGP for quite some time. I had not seen any available at either garage sales or online. This one came up and, of course, I had to have it. The condition was so good, I was excited to find this pretty beast. It was well taken care of and in super shape. There was no pump but that was not a problem, I have a couple on hand, one being an air compressor. This beast also came with the heater can that goes on top. Boy, does this provide the heat!

    Hope you enjoy the pics...


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    Here's the whole HGP with heating unit on.


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    The label is in pretty good shape with minor scratches.

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    The air gauge is in perfect condition. Glass still intact.


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    Riveted metallic label with '457' stamped.

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    The main fuel valve that goes directly into the tank. There's a safety lock that keeps it from turning past 1/4 turn.

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    A view from the top. Very little surface rust.

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    Another view from the top.

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    A view of the dog and HGP. After Suzy was killed, I couldn't bare to get another one. But, I found that a family who has had dogs in their life, can't go very long without one, especially out in farm country. So here's Libby at 4 months old.

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    The filler cap with air valve. Open the valve anti-clockwise to pump air in. The hand pump was laborious so I cheated with an air compressor. The pressure gauge came in handy to keep from over pressurizing. The check valve is right in the filler cap.


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    The main fuel valve with safety lock on the right. Just push down on the coin shaped part and that unlocks the wheel. You don't have to hold it down to shut the valve off. That would be a hazard.


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    The rear of the main burner manifold with drain. I suppose the drain could be used to drain the manifold in case of fuel flooding or for cleaning.



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    The main fuel line runs to the burner control valve.


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    This is one clean bottom, if I've ever seen one. This HGP was kept inside, where I will keep it myself.


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    Time to cook up a SVEA 123.

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    First fire up with youth stovie in the background.

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    Hot flame. Grate is getting red hot!


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    Opening things up. Generator has to catch up to the enormous fuel flow @ 21 PSI.


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    Junk burning out.

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    Almost there.

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    Success!



    More pics to follow!

    sam
     
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  2. Doc Mark

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    Evening, Sam,

    I was just set to head off to bed, when I decided to check just one more time at CCS. I'm really glad I did!! Outstanding photos of an outstanding Coleman product!!! Your Handy Gas Plant is in fantastic condition, and is working like a champ, indeed!! Well done, and many thanks for sharing it with us!! Now, I shall to bed, with dreams of roaring Handy Gas Plants sweetening the night!! :thumbup: :clap: :clap: Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
  3. idahostoveguy

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    Here are some more pics while playing with my new 457G HGP. I had to do a tea test. One liter of water. Not very scientific. Get the stove going. Throw the kettle on and go!

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    Kettle is on with 1 liter of tap water.


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    A little better picture. We'll see how long this takes.


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    Starting to get hot!


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    Starting to get really hot!

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    So hot that green flames are puffing out the side of the kettle. Would that be copper getting a little too hot? The boil test took all of two minutes and about 5 seconds.


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    Flame pic. Pot holder is red hot.


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    Yet another flame shot.


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    Cranked it up a little higher, takes a bit for the generator to catch up.


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    Another shot.


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    A view from the top.

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    With the heater unit on.

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    Flame inside the heater unit.


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    Whoo, hooo! Hotter than hades! It is so hot, I can hardly get close to the thing!


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    Still burning junk out.


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    Another inside shot.

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    Grate is really hot in there.


    Here's a video of the thing on fire:

    HGP in action.

    Hope you enjoyed it. I did.

    sam
     
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  4. geeves

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    I love the colour of a white gas flame More aqua than the pale blue of kero and on one of those slotted burners it seems to shimmer like ripples on a pond. Lovely
     
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    H(oly)G(oat)P(oo)

    Does things like that require a license?
    I know for a fact that nuclear reactors are restricted.

    Whats the milage on that thing. Bet it gobbles up gas like vino goes through Thunderbird :mrgreen:

    55oooBTU = 16113W/h
    16113W/h = 58MW
    Heat of combustion for Gas = 47.3Mj/l
    so it will gulb up 1 1/4 liter or 1/3 gal of soup an hour :shock:
     
  6. idahostoveguy

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    I think this one is rated at a lowly 35,000 BTUs. It's the little brother of the 460G. So it's a little better on fuel economy and will get a little better mileage, which still may vary depending on altitude, use, etc.

    sam
     
  7. Doc Mark

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    Morning, Sam,

    WOW!! That's a neat video, indeed!! I love the sound of it and especially love that heater attachment!! Hummmm.... Might have to seek one out, of cobble one together, for mine, too. Of course, feeding this beast is going to be a problem, that's for sure!! On a related topic, our local Ace Hardware sells Coleman fuel for $10 a gallon. I asked if they could give me a deal if I bought multiple gallons, and after looking at his computer, the guy told me, "I'm sorry, that's pretty close what what WE have to pay for it"!! YOUCH!! Oh, well.... I guess that the 457 and 460 are best left for viewing, and not too much for using.... at THOSE prices!! Thanks for sharing yours again, Sam! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    Hello all, my fair knowledge of American does not help me to come to conclusions about this "Gas Plant". At least it is my understanding that a 'plant' is a place of manufacture or producing.
    Yet the impressive pictures show a contraption made by Coleman producing a small inferno of heat, if nothing else.
    Sure, petrol (or gas) is brought into a gaseous state in order to improve the caloric value of the fuel, but I doubt if the creatists at Coleman were having that in mind when coming up with this name.
    Anybody to enlighten me?
    regards, Mike
     
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    Ahem.

    This is a screen shot of the 1942 Coleman Products Catalog. (Red "highlighting" mine.)

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    My dictionary has "plant" as the following in one of it's English (language) meanings:

    "machinery used in an industrial or manufacturing process"

    Best,
    Gary
     
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    Superb pics what a beautifull flame on these gas plants have infact coleman were a head of their time with liquid fuel stoves i am looking forward to seeing Doc's gas plant in operation
     
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    Thank you Gary; from this I take it that Coleman indicated the heating / evaporating of (liquid) gas or petrol, while the size of the thing might have inspired Coleman to call it a 'Plant' as well.
    Anyway, a very impressive piece of'gassing'!
     
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    Hi Mike, "Plant" can also be used to mean machinary. So for example all the JCBs, Road Rollers, Bulldozers etc that forever dig up the UK roads every summer (just in time for all the Dutch caravans to arrive :lol: ) are collectively known as "Plant" and there are specialised "Plant Hire" firms that hire out this stuff to save each construction firm from maintaining their own fleets when it may not get 100% utilisation. I assume the "Gas" part of it merely refers to the fuel, i.e. Gasolene?

    Cheers, Graham.
     
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    Just wanted to add one more picture....

    HGP with nickel-plated Ruger GP100 .357 Magnum.


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    Plant - The equipment, including machinery, tools, instruments, and fixtures and the buildings containing them, necessary for an industrial or manufacturing operation
     
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    What a beast! That thing would be great for barbqueing whole pigs!
     
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    That's if the cannon left a whole pig left to barbecue ...

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    Thats only a medium bore pistol, not a Klingon Disrupter... :lol:
    Makes Leetle holes... :mrgreen:
     
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    Coleman made some really neat and interesting stuff. Burners similar to this were used in some of their residential water heaters. Also their "hollow wire" lighting system where you had a large pressurized remotely located fuel tank that fed the pressurized fuel throughout your house through hollow wires or capillary tubes in the days before everyone had electricity. I'm guessing that it's possible that the name term gas plant could have derived from these larger remote systems with their centralized gas producing "plants". But to me "Handy Gas Plant" says huge amounts of testosterone laden BTUs. Ha! Can I get a Tim the Toolman Tooltime grunt? RRRRR!!! RRRRR!

    Mike
     

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