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Sirram Citizen

Discussion in 'Marris Ltd - (Sirram)' started by presscall, May 21, 2015.

  1. presscall

    presscall United Kingdom Subscriber

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    This comprehensive write-up on his Sirram Aristocrat by Terry (Trojandog) brings out all the points I could on this example of the Sirram 'Citizen'.

    A bit of a recap of Terry's research is permissable I think though:-

    Democrat in tin plate
    Citizen (aluminium)
    Aristocrat in copper, pot inner tinned and wire handle whipped in cane to insulate it

    Versions of each in different pot capacities. My Citizen takes a pint, but a 1 1/2 pint version was for sale too.

    In the Stove Reference Library are the year 1919 patents for the stove complete, the burner, the spirit container and the simmering 'spoon'.

    I've pictured the main components with their patents - missed out the simmering device because I ran out of printing paper, but the patent for it is HERE

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    The components are thoroughly marked with the patent references

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    Stowage is cleverly managed, with corresponding dimples and bulges in bases to ensure nothing rattles in transit

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    Set up for use, flame on maximum setting ...

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    ... and with simmering 'spoon' regulating device in place

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  2. presscall

    presscall United Kingdom Subscriber

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    A closer look at the simmering device

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    ... and removed

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    It's stamped with a reminder of what it's for

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    Simmering

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    ... and without the device in place

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    Burner's not the fastest to get up to speed. Just getting underway here

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    Got into its stride here

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    It works well. I daresay the 'Democrat' in tin plate could be a rarer find since tinworm must have taken its toll on many. The burners on all three types are brass with a tinplate base and I notice Terry's was holed. Mine's not, but it's a weak spot in what is in every other respect a well thought-out and well-engineered stove.

    John
     
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  3. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

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    :thumbup: I like the Sirram spirit stoves. Anf=d thats a very fine presentation.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    That is simply beautiful! I love meths burners, but the "Russian Doll" aspect and simplicity of the engineering is what really gets me. Everything you need in one small package....wish I could find things like that on my side of the pond.


    :thumbup: :thumbup:


    Dave
     
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    Great photos and presentation - thanks.

    Nice to see manufacturing that goes beyond the basic / functional.

    Norm
     
  6. snwcmpr United States

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    Wow, beautiful, and such a great design of fit.

    Ken in NC
     
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    I'd like to see a side-by-side with an MSR Titan Kettle.

    Is it just me or do they have a striking resemblance?

    PC, thanks for sharing. Always great photo expose'

    AR
     
  8. tekkster United States

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    Stunning piece of gear!
     
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    shagratork United Kingdom Moderator Subscriber

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    John, this is yet another visual treat for us all.
     
  10. snwcmpr United States

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    I'd like to see it in my collection.

    Ken in NC
     
  11. 1966dave

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    :) Right you are Ken!!!
     
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    Me too but I think that's highly unlikely.
     
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  13. junior trangia master United Kingdom

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    i've always liked the siram spirit stoves,
    yours, reminds me of an esbit.
    archie
    10 years
     

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