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Sirram picnic set

Discussion in 'Marris Ltd - (Sirram)' started by Zincman, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Zincman United Kingdom

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    All this talk of Sirram sent me off to the workshop to find this. A fairly early model, not quite complete as the cutlery and one pate pot are missing but the kettle is complete and a tinsmith's delight.
    The cups and remaining pate pot are in enamel, the cups not having whipped handles. There is not room for plates or saucers.
    I assume that cutlery would have been minimal,2 teaspoons and 2 knives? 1269437438-IMG_2468_opt.jpg 1269437453-IMG_2469_opt.jpg 1269437468-IMG_2470_opt.jpg 1269437496-IMG_2471_opt.jpg 1269437612-IMG_2473_opt.jpg 1269437636-IMG_2474_opt.jpg 1269437790-IMG_2475_opt.jpg 1269437808-IMG_2476_opt.jpg
     
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    I'm glad you've posted that Duncan, thanks. Even with just those examples of Sirram products in the Ref Gallery it shows the diversity of design the company engaged in.

    Yes, I agree, that teapot's a beauty.

    John
     
  3. Zincman United Kingdom

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    You've started something now...another boiling set.I blame my big sister because she gave me a Sirram steel-boxed picnic set for my 31st birthday.(still got it too) We used to go for picnics with our 2 year-old son on a pair of bow-framed bicycles, each fitted with a black enamelled steel-strip folding child-seat. I took the wee monster and she took the Sirram. Happy days...
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    This one has a rotten burner but the original tea-infuser, the only one of its type I've seen.
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    I'm glad to have 'started something' with my Sirram Boiling Set post, because it's prompted you to get your rather more spectacular examples out of store!

    I knew you'd got a stash of Sirrami, because you said in a post somewhere you'd accumulated a collection of them. I hadn't guessed they'd be this good, simply because there's no literature on Sirram in the Stove Ref Library and I'd no idea they made stuff of this quality and style.

    Detailing, like the oval brass labels, is wonderful. More Sellotaped user instructions on the lid I see. Very evocative of period.

    Thanks again,

    John
     
  5. Zincman United Kingdom

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    You want more? If you follow me to the workshop you'll never leave,ha ha ha haa!
    It's for local people. Are you local?
     
  6. Zincman United Kingdom

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    This is the one I take out regularly in the BSA or Pembleton
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    A set fit for a League of Gentlemen, certainly, Duncan.

    John
     
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    Duncan thanks for sharing those I just hope that one day I will come across a set like that!
     
  9. Zincman United Kingdom

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    Here is the original set I got for my birthday all those years ago. I have replaced a cup and saucer but other than that I think it is as supplied.
    Sirram obviously mined a rich seam when they started supplying the English with the means to make a "Nice cup of tea" anywhere. The Colonial service must have given them a lot of business and just as that was starting to wane, along came the Edwardian era and the dawn of the motor-car. The early black Japanned boxes were probably aimed at the de Dion and Talbot drivers of the 1900-1914 period and up to the 20's. This one is probably around 1930?,aimed at the motorist.
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    The later ones have ingenious methods of including a boiling set with their picnic outfits until the introduction of the mass produced vacuum flask which effectively removed the need for fire and water.
    To my mind these are bland,pale imitations of the "proper" sets as we all know it's impossible to make good tea from hot water in a flask.
     
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    At the risk of boring everyone to death, here are the last two interesting examples.
    Both have a very neat boiling set-in-a-box. The blue (very up-market) one has flat storage in the lid for a table-cloth and napkins, missing but I have an embroidered cloth of the period and the paper pattern in Woman magazine from which it was made in the early fifties.
    The cups are stored in Roenoid or similar boxes each with two lids which serve as saucers and the kettle etc lives in a hinged steel box. the cutlery is in a wooden grip with a slide-off lid in aluminium.
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    The red case has the usual crockery in the lid but has an unusual sandwich box look-alike with louvre vents in the sides(on the right).
    This has a different form of boiling set, but using the same hinged kettle stand which lifts up to allow the kettle out and then goes back down to support it over the meths pad.
    All their [fittings seemed to be designed to a nicety of fit to get all the needfuls into a small case in the boot(trunk) of your motor-car, ready for the open road.
    Pity that our roads seem to be full. However, for the adventurous there are OS maps with delightful routes just waiting for the intrepid, nostalgic motorist with his period car and picnic set.
    Right, that's it, I'm done.
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    Heck of a collection, absolutely stunning.

    Thanks again,

    John
     
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    Thanks for that John, it's good to know that I'm not alone!
     
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    Hi chaps,

    I recently became the new owner of a Sirram picnic set.

    Photos to follow shortly...

    It's a tin box covered with brown canvas.

    Looks to be a 4-person set.

    There is a large tin box which forms a second layer - it takes up the entire space of that 'level'.

    Teapot with screw-in plug in the spout, tea cups, cutlery, plates, match dispenser, etc.

    It's not in perfect condition but it's not bad.

    Is there anywhere I can look to find the missing items?

    How do you date these things?

    Values for insurance?

    Thanks, Nic
     
  14. Zincman United Kingdom

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    We don't do valuations. It's worth what someone will pay for it.
    Missing items sometimes come up on eBay.
    Use it and enjoy.
     
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    Duncan:

    Thanks for getting out a few of your Sirram outfits. Things of great beauty, I assure you. Not boring in the least. I wish such had made their way to this side of the pond, but alas, no.

    HJ
     
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    I'll try again to add the pics for the blue set 1311925163-IMG_2496_opt.jpg 1311925196-IMG_2497_opt.jpg 1311925221-IMG_2498_opt.jpg 1311925244-IMG_2499_opt.jpg 1311925301-IMG_2500_opt.jpg
     
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  17. hikin_jim United States

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    What a nice set. I'd better not look at it too much lest I want one for myself. Really nice.

    HJ
     

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