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Sirram Redcap No.2 or No.10?

Discussion in 'Marris Ltd - (Sirram)' started by Trojandog, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. Trojandog

    Trojandog United Kingdom Subscriber

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    I was at my local market yesterday morning in the pouring rain. Not many stalls but I managed to find a little Sirram stove and Primus blowtorch on one stall:

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    We agreed on £5 for the pair (with so few shoppers around, I think he was just glad to sell something!). The blowtorch is a Primus 631 with an M8 date code. If Primus used the same code system on blowtorches as on stoves, it would make it 1923. The Sirram set comprises pot, stand, lid, spirit flask and small burner:

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    Ser up for action, the AA battery gives an idea of size:

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    The lid is marked "1/2 Pt Sirram Redcap":

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    The spirit can and base of the burner are also marked:

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    David Shouksmith says in his post here ( Link ) that:

    "There were four versions available:-

    No. 1 - 1/4 pint, which sold for 2/- (10p)
    No. 2 - 1/2 pint, which sold for 3/- (15p)
    No. 3 - 1 pint, which sold for 4/- (20p)
    No. 4 - 1 1/2 pints, which sold for 5/- (25p)"


    Which indicates that this is a Redcap No2 set.

    But this archive post in the SRG refers to the 1/2 pint as the No10 ( Link ):

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    The small burner has no cap so it has to be left to burn itself out. No big deal as it is so tiny:

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    The size is stated as 1/2 Pint but that is to the absolute top of the pot. In practice it can only safely hold just over 1/3 of a Pint. It boiled in around 6 and 1/2 minutes. The fuel continued to burn for about 2 minutes after boiling:

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    OK, it ain't fast, but it is very compact and will easily fit into a pocket. For a simple brew on the go, it does its job well.

    Regards,
    Terry
     
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  2. presscall

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    Nice one - er, two - Terry.

    John
     
  3. David Shouksmith

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    The information regarding Nos. 1-4 came from the label stuck inside the lid of my example. It's not clear from my image but you can just about see where it is if you squint a bit.

    Yours has a different handle arrangement to mine and is called the "new " Redcap. So perhaps there were at least three versions of the set over the years - Nos. 1-4 as in my set, possibly Nos. 5-8 as yet unknown and then your example, one of Nos 9-12. That would make your No.10 - 1/2 pint, correctly placed in the sequence. Pure conjecture of course...

    Edit - which reminds me. I was going to take some photographs of my Sirram Ambassador set for you... :oops:
     
  4. DAVE GIBSON United States

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    I always get a kick out of these little pocket kits. I would buy one in a second but this stuff is never seen around here.
     
  5. teletim United Kingdom

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    Not into blow torches but that little burner is the bee's knees. One to look out. :thumbup:
     
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    Now that was a good day shopping! Excellent little Sirram set!
     

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