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Ultimus Standard No.9 pre-WW1

Discussion in 'France' started by igh371, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. igh371

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    Here we have a basic collapsible, genuinely very 'standard', "Standard No.9" from the French maker Ultimus turned into something a bit more special by some nice attention to detail in the fitting out of an impressive travel tin.

    Several features of the stove itself argue for pre-WW1, Edwardian era, origin; in particular the bun feet and the old style pump rod form. The pride in attention to detail, of which more later, is very apparent in the case of the pump rod, where the backs of partition, cup holder and even the end nut are all neatly domed, an expensive cosmetic touch in a location which would normally never be seen:

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    Now as for the tin, quite a deluxe setting of fittings in my opinion, not least the clever method of making provision for the cast iron trivet; but the photos can speak for themselves:

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  2. Tony Press

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    A very nice stove with a very impressive travel tin! Great find! :thumbup:

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Hi Ian, another cracking stove and great tailored storage/transport case. It is a great example of the tin-smiths skills.

    It is interesting what you say about the quality of manufacturing you saw in this early Ultimus stove. I have a later 1930/40s Ultimus 20 stove:

    http://classiccampstoves.com/threads/ultimus-no-20-french-stove.5413/

    And I too commented on the sheer quality of components even in the hidden away areas of the stove:

    The cast iron pan holder is in great condition and must be original to your stove as the box is built around it.
    I have seen this pattern of cast iron pan holder before, but on another make of French stove, an Eperon D'Or:

    http://classiccampstoves.com/threads/eperon-dor-no-1-french-stove.6710/

    I wonder whether manufacturers "bought in" some of the components?

    My Ultimus 20 has a beautiful, and very distinctive, cast iron pan holder, but clearly branded as "Ultimus".

    Interestingly I have yet another French stove, a Selus, which has been fitted with yet another "Ultimus" cast-iron pan holder at some time of its life:

    http://classiccampstoves.com/threads/selus-french-stove.5437/


    Thanks for posting such an interesting stove outfit.

    Best Regards,
    George.
     
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    @kerophile 2 more photos here. The assemblage packed in the tin and a further shot of the tin as a whole. I do agree that there is a fair chance that some components were bought in, I think the tins must have been made by outside specialists and in this case probably the trivet too. That intention to detail must have been so uneconomic, but shows an ambition to be a high end product, and yet I'e heard that Ultimus had a reputation for stress cracking, puzzlesome.

    In the packed photo there is some sort of old pipe/tube cleaner. I'm keeping this pipe brush because it came in the tin and I found a reference on a French website to a fully complete absolutely original example found in Vienna described as follows: "A stove "Ultimus 9" complete in its box in original iron with accessories, manuals, key and nozzle cleaning kit, ..." (see * below). Now that sounds to be a slightly different tin to this what with the key etc., but the 'nozzle cleaning kit'? did that simply refer to the prickers or maybe to this other brush too? And the 'manuals', I wonder how many of those have survived?

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    * "Un réchaud "Ultimus n°9" , complet, dans sa boite en fer d'origine, avec accessoires, notice, clef et kit de nettoyage du gicleur, dans son sachet d'époque : un bijou ...!!!"
     
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    Was'nt it on the French EBay some days ago ?
     
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    I know this site, I often read on their forum.
    There was a Ultimus 9 for sale on EBay one or two weeks ago, that's why I did the link.
     
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    Another Ultimus No.9 traveller outfit for comparison here. There are very few differences; but why the modified model designation? One older than the other? or is there some other reason for the distinction?
     

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