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Veritas Virtus (?) Early 1920s (?)

Discussion in 'Falk, Stadelmann & Co Ltd' started by igh371, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. igh371

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    Acquired as part of a job lot my original intention was simply to 'rob' the trivet for use elsewhere, but then the stove revealed peculiarities of possible interest ...

    Most obviously the tank base is recessed and of the form more often found on pressure lamps:
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    The filler cap and pump tube cap are very similar to those found on the late-WW1 Kenrick 'Aurora', but without any inscriptions:
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    The burner is a standard 1920s form Optimus No.1 type, which, like the odd ball-end to the pump rod may or may not have been an original fitting:
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    The cast trivet speaks clear for itself:
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    So could this be a Falk, Stadelmann & Co. 'Virtus' stove be from the early 1920s? Unfortunately there are no catalogues available showing those stoves to make comparison with ...

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  2. Tony Press

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    @igh371

    I respect your keen eye for the unusual in these old kitchen stoves. Another great example! :thumbup:

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Here is one additional photo - the distinctive leg shape:
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    I had hesitated about drawing attention to the legs given that all of the legs have been re-attached at some time and that authenticity did not seem to be guaranteed. But, having now found that there is another 'Virtus' in the gallery, and that it shares both this same leg pattern and the same distinctive tank base construction, I think that the legs are original. They share the same sort of kink clearing the tank bottom flange as most later Veritas stoves, but then flare out to the ground in a style more reminiscent of 1920s Optimus designs. The top of the legs, with only a small back loop and very short top section, also seems highly diagnostic. So very very similar to the 'Virtus' linked to above, but without the name having yet been added to the filler cap, pressure release, tank or pump tube cap; so presumably from a slightly earlier stage of production development and some level of confirmation of the guesstimated title date.
     
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    Hi, I came acoss a Virtus several years ago in Italy:

     
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    @kerophile - there is part of a discussion about an early Veritas stove that seems to indicate that Falk, Stadelmann & Co. were still producing some stoves under the Virtus and Farrindon brand names as late as 1928, but had discontinued both by 1938. @Spiritburner wrote then:
    "I have a 1928 catalogue that lists 'warehouses & factories' & what I believe are Falk made stoves - the Virtus & Farringdon as well as a line from Primus. By the time of the 1938 catalogue they are only listing the spares for the Virtus & Farringdon although I suspect they were still making the ovens etc.".
     
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    In same thread

     

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