Trangia - alternative

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  1. snwcmpr

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    I, too, am not sure what you mean by "blanks".
    The Sizzler said good stuff above.

    I love my Duossal with the Nova or the original burner.

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  2. SveaSizzler

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    OK, Yeah. I see what you're talking about. Two 3/8'' dimples in the side opposite to the company logo. One atop the other. Only on the smaller pot. No rhyme or reason why they're there, unless it's so you can distinguish the smaller pan from the larger -- which has no dimples.

    EUREKA: Center of lower dot is 500 ml mark. Upper dot must be a full Liter. [ But I'm not opening another water bottle to test it out].
     
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    Buy the quality item, the Trangia, not lesser knock-offs.
     
  4. Ian

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    Don't be so quick to dismiss the Trangia. It is undoubtedly the better quality item and has stood the test of time. The Optimus clone worked for me but it not without its faults.
     
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    I thought everyone knew that - well, at least over here. We grew up with this...
     
  6. James Freer United Kingdom

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    Many thanks - to me they looked like blanks to break out if one wanted. Like on an electric plug box. Seems odd that they are on one pan and not the other - for a level I'd have expected a raised line or something similar.
     
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    The two ‘blanks’ are two circular marker that appear to be on the inside of some pans. They appear on some Trangia spare parts photographs.

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    Well, I learn something every day from this site!

    I have two Trangia 25s, one with a kettle and one with an extra gas burner.

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    Both have the 0.5L and 1L marks on the inner pans which I have never noticed before.

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    Shows how much I use them!
     
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    And at 0,3 and 0,5l on the inner pot of the 27-set. Both marks is just where I need it, and I have used these marks since my Trangia was new in 1990.
     
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    That info about smaller pot markings and many other answers of common questions is to be found in the descriptions and guides at https://shop.trangia.se/en/
     
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    Thank you for all your advice and comments - this is what i got. It was a clone instead of a Trangia but I was thinking of my 5 days a week (as a tramper truck driver) use not just camping. [I put them out on the bonnet of my kit car.... obviously not lit there as it's fibreglass.

    I was pleased with the design and thought that the aluminium was thicker than that of a Trangia. The pans certainly are although I will use saucepans more as they are hard wearing. I'll save the pans for when I do some hiking again.

    In the first two pics you see the burner and bottom windshield. Next you see the stand I had in mind - I think it is a stand for supporting a pan inside a pan... had it for years and never used it. Upside down it supports a pan well and to my delight fits neatly in the windshield as can be seen in the 3rd and 4th pics.

    The following pics show the pans. It can take 14 cm and 16 cm pans perfectly... the 16 cm are a perfect fit. The deep saucepan is an added bonus. The kettle will fit too.... which means it'll get some use having sat about for over 20 years...!

    I'm going to get another so I have two burners. If anyone knows what that stand is called I'd be grateful as I'd like to get another. I've searched on ebay and can't see anything like it. Other possibility for the 2nd cooker would be a small cake tin with removable base diameter needs to be 12-12.5 cms.
     

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    Looks to be a solid bit of kit, nicely done. Looking forward to hearing how you like it after a couple months use.
     
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    Just found out what that stand is :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    It's called a "double boiler stand" which is what I bought it for. They used to be quite common here in UK but not seen one for many years. I have used it as a double boiler and it is well worth having.

    Are available in US on ebay but for UK available on Amazon in a one pack £9 or two pack £11... so ordered the pair this morning - always worth having a spare.

    What I love is it is just a perfect fit for this stove windshield. I'm looking forward to cooking on my long days away from home - I assure you. Always nice when a 'mod' works out perfectly!
     
  14. Ian

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    Looks good but a couple of things come to mind; be careful that the weight of a full pot on the d/b stand doesn't push the burner shelf down in the lower windshield. It's only held in place by a little lip and comes out fairly easily.
    If the kettle is resting on the sides of the upper w/s, rather than on the d/b stand, it will just put the burner out as there'll be nowhere for the exhaust to escape.
     
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    Think my stove is a little different to whatever you have. Probably these clone ones vary how they are made.

    In the 1st and 3rd pic you can see a rim on the lower windshield. 2nd pic shows the burner ring support underside and you are right it is a pressed out ridge. Secure enough to support the burner on that plate.

    4th/5th pic shows the upper windshield mating with the lower one but the upper one goes outside the ridge.

    6th pic shows the stand in place which straddles the ridge - so any pan weight is on the ridge alone.

    7th pic shows the 16cm pan in place and as can be seen there is a slight gap from the side of the pan to the side of the upper windshield so all pan weight is on the stand. It looks more of a gap in the pic than in fact it is - I can just move the pan slightly sideways (probably < 1mm just slight movement) so just enough for "exhaust". 8th pic shows the curved side of the pan... straight sided and the pan weight is then on the upper windshield.

    Just wondering what I was going to do for putting out the stove earlier today - I had saved a small food can which is fine but likely to be thrown away by mistake. Then saw one of my car hub caps in the garage. Perfect fit and the 2nd one (nice and clean (Series Landrover)) is not quite as wide but looks neater. Just checked the post and my Trangia burner (bought as a spare) arrived today so I can use that cap. The Trangua burner seems the same dimensions as the one that came with it. I haven't compared the two for performance yet but will do during the week.

    You make a fair point but that is not so in my case.

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  16. Ian

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    Yes, I see now and stand corrected. Mine is pretty much the same but the lip for the burner shelf is not as pronounced as yours.
     
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    Trouble is with these clones it would seem the items are sourced in bulk from China. Then packaged here in UK. Mine was in a box marked "Fox Outdoors" made in UK. (LOL).

    I'm am really pleased with this. I bought a Trangia early this year and found it very thin walled - think the Duossal is the one to go for but that's £100. I reckon this clone is good and I get two for the standard Trangia model about £50.

    Getting myself ready for my week away starting tomorrow at 0500.
     
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    Good luck with it and please let us know how you get on.
     
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    The Fox box may be made in UK.
    You can use the old method - take out the rubber seal from the burner lid and just drop the lid on the burner, WAIT until it cools down and then replace rubber and close the lid.
    Most modern Trangia imitations comes with a Trangia style regulated simmer ring that could be used to snuff the burner.
     
  20. SveaSizzler

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    I find a cleaned, de-labeled, empty tuna can works great as a Trangia snuffer. Works on the Svea military burner too.