Coleman 530

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  1. Littledre

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    Hi all, this is my first post. I started collecting pressure lamps about 2 weeks ago but have also taken to stoves. I bought my first stove this week. It is a Burmos touring stove no.21. I would like to buy a coleman 530. Can anyone tell me if the aluminium cylindrical case that also doubles as two cooking pots also came in stainless steel. looking at the pictures on this website some look like it is SS, or maybe it is just highly polished aluminium. What are the forums thoughts if any on the coleman 530.
     
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    Hello,
    I'm new here myself but this question is up my alley. I'm primarily a Coleman collector. The 530 stove is a Jewel of a stove. I have lots of them. They where only made for 2 years, 1946 and 1947. 1000's of them where made in those 2 years. All the cans are made of aluminum. None where made by Coleman from any other material. Now, when you start going back to the 520 stove some of the cans are regular metal. The first single burner field stove made by Coleman would have been 1941 520.

    Hope this helps,

    Kelly
     
  3. dday

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    Welecome Littledre,
    I have 5 or 6 coleman 530's and all of the cases are aluminum. You are right in that a few of them are poished and a few more are rather drab and flat in color. I have never heard of them being made in stainless, but there again I could be wrong. I usually am! :lol: Take care.
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    Hi Kellyblues,
    Can you tell me anything about a coleman 530 that I have that is stamped 51 (1951). I also have several 46 and 47 dates, but I was rather surprised with the 51. Thanks in advance.
    dday
     
  5. Littledre

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    Thanks Kellyblues, the 530's I am looking at are from the US. Apart from shipping at about $40, what sort of price would I be looking to pay for a nice one all intact. (In Dollars)
     
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    Hello dday,
    Yes I can. I left out some info, sorry. The 530 was made in the USA in 46 and 47 only. They where also made in Canada, but there are no records of what years. I only have one 530 made in Canada and it is a 50.
    Look on your stove it should say " Made In Canada"
    If not and it is a 51 it is a miss stamp. That did happen from time to time. i have a 1941 cream 500 Coleman stove that should have been stamped with a " B" but mine has a "P"

    Kelly
     
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    As for the value or cost it depends on if it is complete or not. Along with the stove and can it should also have a funnel, wrench and a top plate. Now if you find a complete one on eBay it should go around 40-65 at this time. A year ago it would have been 150 dollars. So use that as a guide. You will see that a lot of them are missing either the wrench or the top plate, both of which I make and sell. If you find one and want me to look at it email and I'll let you know what I think. There are a few things to look at that will tell if it has been misused or had diesel fuel in it.

    Kelly
     
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    What differences are there between the US and the CA made lamps.
     
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    Kellyblues I have one I would like you to look at. I can't email you because your email address is not showing up on your profile.
     
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    Great stove if you want to boil water (rather than cook) because it's got two speeds only - thermonuclear meltdown and off. Apparently it's OK to use the pricker control to regulate the heat output, although I can't say I've had a great deal of success with that so I just use mine to boil the kettle...
     
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  12. Littledre

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    Nice 530s. David has yours got the top plate. I should imagine the top plate helps to spread the heat. Without it it would be like holding a blow torch under your pan.
     
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    No, yes, yes.

    Like Ross, I didn't realise I had a part missing - b*gger... :roll:

    :-k In the advert, it's listed as 'three piece' - is that the stove and the two cans?, stove, can and top plate?, or what..? :?
     
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  14. Littledre

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    Thank Kellyblues, he mentioned the top plates, I just put 2 and 2 together, I know nothing about stoves. I think he makes his own.
     
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    I guess to better understand why the stove works the way it does it would help to know why it works the way it does. Here is some information from the Coleman web site about the first field stove.



    Historians point to 1942, World War II and the GI Pocket Stove as the true genesis of today’s Coleman® backpack stove, although everything the company had learned the previous 25 years would be needed to develop the Model 520 Pocket Stove. The U.S. Army originally wanted a compact stove for use by a new special unit of ski troopers. It needed to burn a variety of liquid fuels and gasoline, light easily in temperatures ranging from 60 degrees below zero to 125 degrees above zero, weigh less than three pounds, and not be much larger than a quart milk bottle. And, given the pending war circumstances, the product would need to be designed and built with the utmost speed. Ebendorf says it was a daunting task for Coleman engineers, and the assignment set into motion “the most strenuous 60 days in the company’s history.”

    That is direct from the Coleman web site. They do however have the date wrong and Mr. Ebendorf will verify that. It was 1941 not 42. From many phone conversations and written letterers I have shared back and fourth with Mr.Ebendorf one was only about the 1941 520. In the letter he explains that about 1000 where made. The military ordered 1000 of them but Coleman made a few more than than that. 15-20 more or so but that was it. Those 15-20 went to the designers, executives and so on. There is 1 in the Coleman museum left over from this run of stoves.



    After the 1941 stove Coleman started making the stove for the private sector and civil service of the USA but 1000's where made of each years following that.The years of the 520 are 1941,42,43,44 and 45



    It was 1946 that the 530 was born. Coleman kept the beginning operating designs the same.



    So the 530 will work great in a very cold high altitude. At a normal altitude and regular temperature one may think it's only setting is thermonuclear meltdown. But if you use the top plate or a thinker plate you can regulate the temperature. I would not recommend using the tip cleaner as a regulator because this will cause the tip to get oversized by the velocity.



    In my opinion the 530 is a great stove. It's like anything else really. Once you understand it better it becomes easier to use
    Kelly
     
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    Ross if you ever want to part with that display you let me know. I would love to get my hands on that!! That is one of very few of those still around.

    The plate does help spread and regulate the heat.

    I do make repro plates for hte 530. They are of 16ga Stainless steel. Here is a link to picture folder.

    http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm211/kellyblues/530-1/
    I would have posted the pictures here but I have not got that far with you cool site yet! HA

    A lot of people don't know they are missing a part till they see one that has what they are missing.

    Kelly
     
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  17. Littledre

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    Kelly, I see you make the plates, what do you do if the spanner/handle is missing. Do you make those as well? Also is there a clip or clips to keep the
    lid/case/pots together.
     
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    Yes I make the spanner also. The can has slots in it to put them together. you line up the tabs and push the yop down and twist, this keeps the top on.

    Kelly
     
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    I wanted to add that I did not join here to sell parts but I do have quite a few and if anyone is intrested let me know. I make pump leathers for all Coleman items. Also for most Tilley Lanterns and Petromax Lamnerns. I also make pump leathers for the M950 and M1942 stoves. I also make fuel gaskets for all Coleman items including the M1950 and M1942 stoves.

    I joined here as a collector because that is what I am at heart. If not for being a collector I would have never became a Coleman parts dealer in the first place. But I don't mind selling any body here some parts if you need them, I just don't want people to think I joined here just for that reason.

    kelly
     
  20. keith1066

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    would it be possible to get a scan of your display for the pocket stove?