Optimus 8 Loose Spirit Cup

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  1. chas brookes

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    Hi
    the spirit cup on my Optimus 8 is loose, I have tried reseating it on the tapered nut but it comes loose again after 1st use. Is there a trick that keeps it seated, or does the cup need replacing, any tips appreciated
    Charlie
     
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    Can you post any photos.
    Is the thread loose/worn?
    Is there a crack?
     
  3. chas brookes

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    Hi Snwcmpr,
    the threads are all okay and there are no cracks in the cup. The cup will not remain seated on the tapered nut, I have tried tapping it further down the nut with a socket to reseat it. Which I thought had worked until it was used but following heating it was loose again see photos.

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  4. Simes

    Simes R.I.P.

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    I'll take it off your hands while you look for one without a wobbly cup. :content:

    I have a couple of different stoves with spinning cups including the lovely Svea from @Harder D. Soerensen, all gas tight so I'm not worried, they still prime and work.

    Harder, a new nipple improved the burn pattern, but not completely happy that the outer cap should glow like it does on higher pressures.
     
  5. kerophile

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    Hi @chas brookes , I measure a spirit cup for an Op.8 at approx 30mm OD with a centre hole diameter of approx 10mm.

    If you need a replacment Base Camp has them listed:

    296c Spirit cup for 8 not 8R £4.50

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
  6. chas brookes

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    Sorry Simes it is a keeper even with a wobbily cup :lol: and it roars really well :D
    Thanks for measurement details Kerophile it matches, I think it is just suffering from age. I may well get a spare from base-camp
     
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    That's OK Chas, :content: wobbly priming cups can put some people of stoves. And there are welcoming homes if that is the case. :thumbup:
     
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    Why not try to make some kind of washer that you can put between the nut and the spirit cup?
    That would make it sit better I will think.

    Michael
     
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    @Simes
    Not quite sure that I follow you - could you PM me a couple of pics?
     
  10. chas brookes

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    Hi Michael a nut above the cup may well work, can not use one below as the tapered nut goes into the bottom of the spirit cup on the Optimus 8 unlike the 8R
     
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    It was not exactly a nut I was thinking about.
    I was thinking if you have the tools to make some kind of washer out of a tin sheet of aluminum, brass or similar to use as a shims between the nut and the spirit cup.

    Michael
     
  12. chas brookes

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    Sorry Michael I did understand what you meant, must remember to read posts properly before posting it should have read washer rather than nut :lol:
     
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    Is that with the nut tightened all the way?
     
  14. chas brookes

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    Hi Snwcmpr
    yes that is all the way up, it does in fact stay flat I tilted it to show it was loose. I will probably try a brass cup washer above it to keep it level
     
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    I have too many errands today. I will try to take a look at my 8, the same model. It appears to be an 8 just before the 8R.
     
  16. chas brookes

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    i think over the years the spirit cup has expanded and contracted so many times it has now got just a little bit bigger than the tapered nut, and is no longer clamped by the nut
     
  17. Radler

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    Hello Charlie

    I own a similar Optimus No.8 from the fifties as yours. Mine is only little used and the priming cup sits almost as loose as yours.
    You may lay a ring of brass or copper wire under or above the cup if this is annoying you.

    Did you notice I wrote "priming cup" not "spirit cup"? In fact the cup is too small for priming with spirits. These cups are sized for priming the "Russian way". Have a look at this post and my solution for better priming.
    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/need-help-russian-8r-clone.34568/#post-354966

    Maybe you may want to improve your regulator key and learn how to prevent carbonised fingers. Look here:
    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/8-r-differences.30472/#post-309561

    Best regards
    Radler
     
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2018
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    At least a good reason for emptying a beer can :)
     
  19. chas brookes

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    Hi Radler
    thanks for great advice may well try some of the solutions, have also someone sending me some brass cup washers which may well do the job :)
    cheers
    Charlie