What is this Abeille stove, a Frankenstein one?

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  1. Don Octavio Netherlands

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    Found on my local market, not sure what to think of it. Looks like a pressure stove reservoir with an ordinary oil lamp on top.


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    Appears a pressure stove converted to an oil lamp.
     
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    @Don Octavio

    It looks most like a Cosmos wick burner on an “Abeille” pressure stove.

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    These lamps appear from time to time in France. In French lamp-forums they are known and discussed without a conclusion.

    I see them as a historical relict. My theory is, the ABEILLE kerosene stoves were produced in Algeria, when Algeria was a part of France. In 1962 the FLN won the liberation war and De Gaulle decided surprisingly to remove all French troops from Algeria. Algeria was independent.

    The new Government installed a Socialist Economy. The ABEILLE Brand was acquired 1963 from VEB Monsator Haushaltsgroßgeräte-Kombinat Schwarzenberg, East Germany (People owned Enterprise, vendor of BAT stoves). It seems, there was some production of stoves for a short time with brands as ABEILLE, and BEE in East Germany (GDR).

    The lamps with wick burner and useless (fake) pump could be made from relict stove parts in Algeria and sold to tourists.

    Is there a "Made in France" mark on the fount? Somewhere in the CCS archive is a picture of a ABEILLE stove card-box. The style looks very much as handmade in Algeria.

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    My posting was not intended to disappear in the corner for dogfood and hairstyling!

    I hoped to maybe hear something more about the history of the ABEILLE stoves and their connection with the famous Abeille-gasoline-lamps between 1900 and 1963 in France. There is no chance to find somebody who knows about it, if the thread is hidden in the backyard.

    A better title with the word "Abeille" in it would be helpful.

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  11. Don Octavio Netherlands

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    @Radler Thanks for the link, I used Google translate to read it, je ne pas parlez francais. Still doubting if I should buy it... I love stoves and lamps, but if I would buy (20 euro with shipping), it would be for resale eventually. Is it wor.... wooh, wait, not sure actually if I can ask this question here.