Super Bleuet

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  1. AndersX Sweden

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    Happy new year!
    A little late..

    I tripped last week over a Camping Gaz
    Super Bleuet, at work. :lol:
    It has to be cleaned....

    Perhaps early 60 ?
    And with a gas cartridge with gas :)

    Anders

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    @AndersX
    Maybe even sooner.

    This is an advertisement from a 1959 issue of Paris Match.

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    A change of blue colour on Bleuets, more metallic in the example you have.

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    John
     
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    Crumbs ! I turned down one of these recently, thinking that the cartridges were unobtainable. Is that so ? There's a few different sized cartridges on the market now, but I haven't taken much notice.
     
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    Camping Gas don’t make them anymore but some Chinese and Korean manufacturers do. The original CG branded cartridges are abundant as new-old-stock, in the UK at least. Because they are pierceable carts with no valve to leak they retain the gas indefinitely, provided bad storage hasn’t caused the base seam to rust and leak. I’ve a few of the original Bleuet ‘Cornflower’ stove cartridges dating from the 1950’s that still hold gas (liquefied gas sloshing around).

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    Thank you, John.
     
  6. blabast88

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    You can still find those cartridges in France, almost everywhere. Is it really not produced anymore?

    The super bleuet was first introduced in 1958, at least. Yours is showing some marks of a plastic cap that is not here anymore. I do have one with the original blue cap. Later models had a grey cap, similar in shape but of a different type of plastic:

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    By Camping Gas. I assumed not Bastien because of modern safety regulations?
     
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    Well, I'm pretty sure it's still produced. Here's a video dated 2018, showing the C-200 pierceable cartridges being produced:

     
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    Right, I must be mistaken @blabast88 Not for sale in the USA I must have been thinking of, not the same as not manufacured by CG.
     
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    Well, that might be the case. Anyway, it's still for sale in France, and so are the campingaz stoves working with pierceable C-206 cartridges. They currently have two models in their product line, using this type of canisters:

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  11. TRA_A United Kingdom

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    Isn't it only the no valve at all piercable carts that are no longer made, the new GLS ones have a sort of emergency valve in case stove is detached from a non empty piercable, as now required by en417?

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    Is it just a ball of rubber I wonder?
     
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    @TRA_A Well spotted. Translation:
    News to me, I’ve not kept up with the technology. ‘Keeps most of the gas’ will be interesting to explore. I’ll see if I can get hold of one, test that safety feature and subsequently section it to see how the device operates. Thanks.
     
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    Seems unlikely because of the way that the burner drills it's way into the top of the cartridge. Surely it would also rip the rubber to shreds.

    My biggest problem is not being able to replace the rubber seal that sits into the recess on the top of the cartridge. I had one split on a gas lamp once. Thankfully it was a more modern version where the cartridge was fully enclosed so the gas did not leak fast enough to reach the hot mantle. I only got a slight whiff of gas and shut it down before a conflagration could happen. Needless to say that lamp had a very short life after that.

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    All will be revealed soon, in a separate post rather than hijacking @AndersX ‘s anymore.

    I’ve purchased a Campingaz C206 cartridge equipped with the ‘Gas Lock System’ and will use it to run a stove for a while (might as well get my money’s worth of brews out of it!), then remove the still-charged cartridge - outdoors, ppe-equipped and away from flames/heat - see what happens and whether the catridge can be re-installed, usable, in the stove. Finally, I’ll section the cart to take a closer look at the gas lock device.

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    Closer, what looks like the back of three rivets around the dimple to be pierced, suggests the device is connected to those.

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    John
     
  15. Jeopardy

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    sounds interesting
     
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    Hi John @presscall , the 3 'dots' look more like (I think you call it)tack welding to me. We'll know soon after the autopsy! :D/ :lol:
     
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    You’re right Wim. I said ‘rivets’ having temporarily forgotten the more appropriate spot weld term. I’d best start that separate post.