Svea 123. To Fettle Or Not To Fettle?

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  1. snwcmpr

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    The 5 sided hole is the way to access the SRV pip. A special tool is needed. There might be locktight holding it in place. Also care should be taken to not damage that fragile piece, the screw is sheet metal, not solid.
    There are many posts on changing the gasket and pip.
     
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    Yes, follow the advice by @snwcmpr and get the tool before thinking of replacing it, as well as heeding the instructions here before destroying the cap. I searched a few weeks ago, but couldn't find anyone across the pond that had the tool in stock. Fortunately, I haven't yet had to change the pip in my stoves. To test before attempting to fire up, I straighten out a paper clip push on the pip from the inside a few times, and if it still seals, I figure it's good, at least for now. BTW, a Coleman one-piece fuel cap gasket is a perfect fit for these caps.
     
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    Does anybody sell "reproduction" or, complete Svea fuel caps, that have had the gaskets and pips replaced?

    I'd think this would be a popular choice, a lot of people might be hesitant about purchasing specialised tools or performing "open cap" surgery.
     
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    You can find them on ebay, but I don't know the quality. You might want to check if anyone on this forum with the right tool can do it for you, as well as check the pressure afterwards for the proper pressure release.
     
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    No, not for me. We're good here!

    But, like I said, a lot of people probably don't want to go through the hassle, they don't want to buy any tools that get used but once. Buying a replacement cap would be slick, and a nice little cottage industry for someone.

    See where I'm goin' with that?
     
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    >>See where I'm goin' with that?

    Honestly, no. At least on this side of the pond, demand for new lanterns and stoves has plummeted. Just looking at Coleman, they stopped selling on their website a couple of years back, and shut down several outlet stores just this past year, including some very profitable ones. If anything, I think you'd need to make high demand parts that are no longer made commercially to be worth bothering. There are lots of Coleman collectors in the US, but not enough to justify production runs on parts, stoves, or lanterns. I can't imagine a run of fuel caps for Svea's or Optimus being a demand item, and for those that need them, they will rebuild themselves or find someone to. Also, I personally wouldn't want reproduction fuel caps on my stoves. Gaskets and pips are obviously OK.
     
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    Many times a NOS cap has hard gasket and pip.
    Better to learn to fettle the stove.

    Or, as our cars, pay a proper mechanic to do it.

    The tool can be made, there are instructions in a post.
    Svea 123 Research Project, prelim
     
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    That whole thread a a gem mine.
     
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    Maybe, but without regard to that the standard recommendation or consensus here is always to replace gaskets & pips (SRV) assemblies on the Svea fuel caps. I mean, even by you, just upthread here. And, that's a good thing.

    If somebody were to re-furbish fuel caps, offer "fresh" ready to go caps, they would probably be a hot seller. A lot of people simply aren't necessarily all that interested in the finer points of stove repair, they want to be safe but they can't be bothered with this minutae stuff, they just want to get gramps old stove running again.
     
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    I doubt anyone would want to do that, due to liability issues. That’s why the caps weren’t designed to be serviceable in the first place.

    So someone wanting to get gramp’s old stove working will have to — and probably should — assume that responsibility themselves.

    Either that, or maybe some offshore entity that’s effectively immune from being sued might start selling “new” caps. Question is, would you trust them?

    ….Arch
     
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    Not willing to learn how to fettle the old stove?
    Get a butane light it and forget it stove.
     
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    It seems to me replacing a cap gasket is pretty basic. Not much more effort that finding a replacement cap.And there is lots of willing help here on this site.
     
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    Gasket replacement shouldn't a show stopper, but the pip & special penta-tool are a bit more of a pain.

    Heck, Optimus (or something that looks like it) still sells the stove now that I think about it.

    Do they sell the fuel caps? Now they would certainly have some liability exposure because they have deep enough pockets.
     
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    I'm by myself I think in the camp that the pip in the SRV doesn't necessarily need replacing unless it leaks. I have found thru one experience that the SRV vents when the tank is too hot to touch for even a split second. Many here would never own a Optimus Ranger 10.
    Duane
     
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    I stand by my experience. If the gasket is hard, the pip is hard.
    If the pip is hard, it is more likely to not function properly.

    I also am a fan of keeping the cap original to the stove. It is not rocket science to change a pip.