old flint lighters

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  1. CRAZY CRAB

    CRAZY CRAB United Kingdom Subscriber

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    any know what stove these are out off, some tilley stove,

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    Early MSR XGK/ Model 9 series.
     
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    I've only seen those on some Coleman lanterns, primarily the 200/200A's. You would use one of the lighting holes to attach them, making use of those nuts. For the 200 series, they also had a little bracket to attach to the center frame nut. Coleman, Coghlan's, and maybe others made them. They also go by the name whump sticks. Imagine opening the valve on a lantern, the fumes building up, and then striking it. You will then easily understand the name whump stick. :)

    There is usually a spare flint in the cap that you can access when you remove it.

    If anyone has a pic, I'd like to see how one was attached to a stove. I know that if you leave it in the up position close to a mantle, the heat will destroy the flint.
     
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    yep, cheaked, spare flint in cap, :)
     
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    One came attached to my (new) first MSR XGK. First time I ran the stove with a windscreen, the sparker got too hot and warped, rendering it unusable.

    I’ve installed these speakers (Coghlans) on Coleman lanterns. They work very well in this role.

    ….Arch
     
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    The later XGK II and Shaker jet they have removed this sparker and I like those revision.

    XGK's burner cup design was really fantastic withOUT this one, for me this is poor as my personal taste!

    I have the recent one also, for coleman lantern, never attach it. horrible thing...
     
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    @Yun124 I believe the bolt (and shaped washer) to replace were part of the original kit.

    @Jim Lukowski The lighter is for the priming fluid absorbed on a mat below the bell. Once started the heat is at the top of the bell. Apart from @ArchMc 's stove they have generally survived because they are low enough to avoid the heat.
     
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    @Scrambler When using these on a stove, are they hand-held? Or attached to the stove. If attached, I'd still like to see a picture of one attached. These strikers do not seem practical to hold for lighting the stove. A disposable lighter would be much more convenient.
     
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    @Jim Lukowski They are bolted into the windshield and also function to hold the fuel line/pipe in place. The photos in that thread include an overhead which shows location. The advantage over a cigarette lighter is that your fingers aren't in the 'whoomp' mentioned earlier. With this you simply spin the end- its already positioned by the mounting.
     
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    Thanks @Scrambler I missed that pic earlier. It's seems so close to the heat that I'm surprised one of these would hold up without the flint getting destroyed. Attaching one to a stove is a first for me. So far as I know, these were never sold for stove use in the US.
     
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    @Jim Lukowski As for me, I've never seen them other than in an XGK (a US stove). We've both learned something. :-)
     
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    if any one wont one, let me know got 4 for sell, with spear flint
     
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    @Murph

    Each and every one of those are pure genius! Thanks for posting the links!

    Being such a big fan of the 502, I especially like that mounting.
     
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    I fettled three Coleman lanterns for a fellow and one of the lanterns had the spark lighter. The lantern was a late 1950s model. It worked so well, no whoomph, that I bought two new ones to try, both labelled Coleman. They are worthless and they live in my parts drawer. The old one was great. Brad