New here - please can you help?

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  1. Alicia O United States

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    Well, then I think it’s time to throw some seals in there and see what happens! Do you know where to get seals from? You could at least start with that. The NRV the end of the pump rod tube is going to be another thing, but start with the seals. And how is the pump cup leather doing?
     
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    Later Burmos had decals rather than engravings or stamping. Given the Burmos stamping on the pan ring & shape I think that's likely what it is. Nothing rare but no less enjoyable to fettle & use.
     
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    ...but! All the late Burmos 2-pinters of this tank shape I have seen have had the air release valve on the filler neck. So if it is a Burmos, it's an interesting one!
     
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    Oh, you stove people notice the most interesting things.
     
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    Truthfully I have no idea where to acquire seals etc. in UK. I'm sure with your advice from here and my persistence I'll get there. I've restored vintage machinery before just not a stove!
     
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    @Andrew Cooper , seals etc. can be acquired from The Fettlebox, click on the add on the right hand side of this page.

    Enjoy fettling!

    w!m
     
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  9. Andrew Cooper United Kingdom

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    An update. This stove I have been asked to restore is definitely a Burmos - carefully removal of some later paint reveals this.

    Now I have to work out which seals to buy.
     
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    Is the wording on the pan ring or tank? If the former it may be off another stove.
     
  11. Andrew Cooper United Kingdom

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    Good point Spiritburner. It is on the pan ring although it's clearly a good fit. I will explore the tank some more.
    That said, having looked on YouTube at some Burmos stoves the tanks and burners look identical.
     
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    As Blackdog pointed out having the air release on the cap would be unusual for a Burmos this size.
     
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    Happy New Year everybody. I can't believe it was May 2025 when I last had a chance to look at this. Now, please may I ask for some more help?
    I have now started putting the 'probably' Burmos stove together for my friend. I've been advised not to move the nrv unless there's a problem so I have a tool ready just in case.
    My issue now is I can't quite work out exactly how to put the pump back together - in the right order anyway. I have a new pump leather. Could some kind person please have a look at the attached photo and advise me? Many thanks. Pump components.jpg
     
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    From the photo above:

    1. Put the pump cap over the pump shaft the correct way around.

    2. Unscrew the notched brass fitting from its joining part.

    3. Fit the notched brass piece into the concave area of the pump cup and screw it through the hole in the back of the pump cup.

    4. Refit the back plate to the slotted brass fitting.

    5. Put the assembled pump cup on the shaft with the concave area forward to the stove.

    6. Screw the end nut onto the pump shaft.


    IMG_2239.jpeg
    [Source: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/1962-primus-catalogue.37488/]


    Cheers


    Tony
     
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    Hi @Andrew Cooper ,
    Sorry I am almost a year late but I've only just looked at your puzzle stove.

    First thing: It has obviously been repaired with non original parts as the two legs in your picture are different patterns! One has a little joggle where it steps over the flange of the fount, while the other doesn't and the joggled one also has a formed foot. Maybe the non joggled/non footed one was just made from a piece of steel rod (rather than a leg from another stove?

    Next, I was intrigued by the slot in the air release, and instatntly thought of Veritas stoves and then an unmarked one on my window sill, which I think is a Berlyn product (they made Parasene brand and stoves for hardware store own brands). Their tell tale marking is what appears as a stepped pressing in the base of the fount, about an inch in from the soldered joint of the base to the side of the fount. Looking quickly, it appears as a large circle around the tank underside. Does yours have one of those?
     
  18. Andrew Cooper United Kingdom

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    @Tony Press thanks for all of this. Couple of extra questions if I may please?

    Firstly, because the open side of the leather cup goes into the tank first it's extremely tight - should I add any kind of lubrication to it?
    Secondly, looking at the attached phot can you please advise (I am not quite getting this, sorry!) which way around this piece goes - I think it is number three on your list of instructions. One side has a smaller diameter with a groove cut across it the other, a wider diameter and one side machined flat.
    Thirdly (sorry!!), the gap between the two different diameter Pump_b_mark up.jpg sides to this piece - does the gap need some kind of washer. Marked by red arrow on my photo.

    Many thanks.
     
  19. Andrew Cooper United Kingdom

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    @Dean thanks for your helpful comments. You are quite right about the underside. Photo attached. Stove_underside.jpg
     
  20. Andrew Cooper United Kingdom

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    This is what I think is correct.....???? Probably!.jpg