1911 Primus No.100 (PD) No.3 Compact Outfit.

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  1. igh371

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    This is an interesting Condrup marketed Primus No.100 stove No.3 Compact Outfit. (No.3 Compact Outfits also exist assembled around Primus No.9 stoves too - e.g..) The stove at the centre of this Outfit is a somewhat unusual version of a 1911, date code 'A', Primus 100. The unusual aspect is the priming apparatus. Instead of the normal spirit ring we have what the 1914 catalogue was describing as 'fotogentändning', 'paraffin ignition'. But which by 1917 had been re-Christened as 'petroleumtändning' (same meaning, new terminology) and the stove hence then designated as either '100P', or '100PD' if it was supplied with both roarer and silent caps as in this case.
    As can be seen below the fotogentändning/petroleumtändning comprised a special shallow priming ring with aeration perforations around both outer and inner surfaces, with the inner surface itself taking the form of a concentric sleeving arrangement which slid down the lipstick burner column and allowed air to be drawn up this inner surface too. Spare parts lists show that originally there would have been a loose asbestos ring sat in the shallow cup ring to act as a wick to light the paraffin before lowering the top outer perforated shield down to contain and direct the flame (a carbon felt ring will be cut to substitute for the asbestos wick):
    DSC09347.JPG DSC09349.JPG DSC09350.JPG DSC09348.JPG DSC09353.JPG 1917 cat. '100P'.jpg 1917 cat. '100P' (3).jpg There may originally have been a small metered filler jug now lost. This priming system must never have been that successful or popular on the No.100 lipsticks as it had ceased to be an option on these stoves by the end of WW1.

    A second unusual component of this Outfit is the inclusion of a Primus part no.1650 steel pricker sleeve which can be seen lying at the rear of this photo:
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    This pricker tube may be a later addition as I can't find it in any catalogue before 1920.

    The Compact Outfit tin appears to be like most others in the gallery but with the addition of provision to put a small padlock in place to secure the lock arm!
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    The stove has both burner top options catered for:
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    Fine presentation of a real classic.
     
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    Ah ha IAN it was you who got that one ! I put in an early cheeky offer which was rejected :lol:!

    I see you’ve got a lot of the blue paint off my plan was to use electrolysis on it.

    Its an interesting stove isn’t it? Lovely set altogether!

    Congratulations on a great score and a nice presentation!

    Cheers Nick
     
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    Very interesting Ian!
    Tilley went back to a similar arrangement with its BR49 Lamps, nice to see the original idea though.

    Alec.
     
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    I have a particular fondness for the condrup outfits

    nice

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    I have discovered in the old Primus catalogues that the special paraffin priming parts on this stove are not interchangeable with the outwardly identical fittings on the 303 model. The inner component is given as part no. R1209 on the '100', and R1210 on the 303. Obviously the design variations are necessary to enable compatibility with the profoundly different constructions of the 100 lipstick burner on the one hand and a standard roarer burner on the other. The best illustrations to shown the differences with these special priming parts seem to be those on pages 14, 21 and 51 in the 1917 catalogue.
     
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    A well documented post on a lovely outfit.
    Thanks :thumbup::thumbup:
     
  8. Doc Mark

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    Hi, Ian @igh371 ,

    That is one classy looking outfit!! Well done on scoring that one, though I'm sure poor Nick will shed tears that it didn't sneak it away from you! ;) :lol: :lol: He'll get over it, I'm sure!! These cased outfits are seldom seen over here on our side of The Pond, which makes seeing yours a real pleasure, my Friend!! Thank you, as always, for sharing lovely finds like this, and for the excellent information you include!! I'll bet it will work a treat, when you're ready to fire it!! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc