1941 Primus 71 C.T.R.8, for the German market, NOS

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  1. Sternenlicht

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    Hej everybody,

    I found a nice not used Primus 71. It seems that stove was especially produced for the German market. Below the filler cap a label made of brass is mounted: "Nur für Benzin C.T.R. 8". Does someone knows the meaning of "C.T.R. 8"? Also the users manual is labelled with an instrustion summary in German language.
    It is stamped with "AF", so it seems to be produced in 1941.

    It is my first 71, not sure whether I should use it or not...

    Ciao, Bastian

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  2. z1ulike

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    Do not light it. After 66 years it's still in new condition. Keep it that way.

    Ben
     
  3. kerophile

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    Hi, 1941 to 2017 =76 years old.

    The acronym CTR stands for: Chemisch- Technische Reichsanstalt.
    This was the German Imperial Institute of Chemistry and Technology, and the Technical authority of setting Standards. This was founded in the late 19th/ early 20th Century and became the Technical Authority for Germany. The idea was subsequently copied by the British and the National Physical Laboratory was founded.
    I guess just as we in the UK have the BS (British Standard) designation the Germans might have had a CTR system.

    Some other stoves with the CTR markings:

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/juwel-33-early.19868/#post-310509

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/optimus-no-8-german.20458/#post-210280

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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  4. OMC

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    Bastian thank you for posting,
    It is an excellent example. The CTR is unique, of note it seems Primus provided that German labeling (as did Optimus for the No.8, link above). We can't see it entirely but the standard 2 side No.71 tank stamping I'm sure is there in-place as well.
    It is btw, the only 1941 No.71 in our SRG to-date (it's the only one I've seen but you & I are new here and I don't get out much :content: ).
    I too hope you choose to preserve this pristine NOS in it's entirety. If it is difficult for you to acquire a similar user Primus 71 our membership may be able to help w/that, you're welcome to PM me.
    thx again omc
     
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  5. Sternenlicht

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    Thanks vor the replies! After getting all the information I decided to keep it unburned, even it will be hard for me...
    But now I have to look for a real user, maybe I can get one with the newer overpressure valve.
    Yes, beside the ctr label the tank has the two side stamping.

    Ciao Bastian
     
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    Math isn't my strong suit apparently. :doh:

    Ben
     
  7. SveaSizzler

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    Very nice stove!
    I have an Arara 37, made in Dresden in WH olivgrun and it's stamped <<CTR15>>. Because of the color of the stove and windscreen/case, and the fact that the fuel tank is steel, not brass (scarce in wartime), I think my stove was military issue.
    I had to look up CTR and it's a 3rd Rch certification agency. Funny, the UK Ebay seller used the CTR 15 to misinterpret the marking into a year date, so the Arara was listed as a "WWI [1915] German Soldiers Trench Stove". The joke's on him since WWII relics sell for more than WWI stuff. The Arara caught my interest since it looked much like a Svea 123. The design is earlier than the 123's 1955 debut, and I think the Primus 71 is the ''missing link'' in the evolution of compact mountaineering stoves.
    I don't know the significance of the number after the CTR. Regional designation would be my guess.
     
  8. cmb56

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    Not! In my opinion.
    You will find an used one sooner or later.

    Michael
     
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  9. IvanN

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    That's a nice stove and not lighting it allows you to find another for a user.
    I recommend getting one to use- they are fun little stoves
    Ivan
     
  10. Sternenlicht

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    Hey again,

    I found another Primus 71 which I will use instead of the ctr-stamped one.
    It is stamped with AR, so it was produced in 1952. As I received it, I was really surprised, because the tank is coated with nickel.
    I only replaced the fuel cap sealing and its burning like hell ;)

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    Ciao, Bastian
     
  11. Tony Press

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    Mmmm... Nickel Primus 71: I hope you put some quality photos in the Reference Gallery.

    Cheers

    Tony