1954 Primus 41

Discussion in 'Primus No:41' started by mbechtel, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. mbechtel

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    The quality of this model is stunning. The paint is the same type found on some tool boxes, with the hard and fine krinkle texture. The way the control knob locks onto the spindle with a threaded collar is a novel idea. The wrench, lighter, and instruction sheet were included with this stove. The usual Primus meths can with the brass cap was also present, however it does have a few small pin holes, like most that are 50+ years old.

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    A real beauty Matt in looks and quality and its nice to see the engraveing on the tank on that style of stove i have never seen an engraved tank on a optimus 8r or 111 a shame about the spirit can but as you say most over 50 years are like that being water based :clap:
     
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    The Primus transfer (decal) on the lid's broken up on the crinkle paint finish, just like it has on mine! Seems like a vain hope on the part of the manufacturer to imagine that it would stay intact for long.

    Here's the decal on mine

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    Lovely example you've got there.

    John
     
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  4. mbechtel

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    Thanks Brian :)

    Hi John, yes, they both have about the same amount of decal left. I've sent an e-mail to the gentleman that reproduces these decals. If I put a new one on it, I'll probably protect it like the soft spot on a newborn baby's head!

    http://www.gaspressuredecalsandlabels.com/index.html

    He doesn't have every label or decal, but he has this one!
     
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    Aye - I let him have the artwork when my decal machine broke. I may try making them again on a laser colour machine using white decal paper but too much on the plate for now.

    Make sure you get the right one - Hjorth not Bahco for 1954
     
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  6. mbechtel

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    Hi Ross,
    Thanks,...yes, I asked for the older version...I appreciate your eye on detail though, I'd hate to make that kind of mistake!
    He does give you credit on his website too!
     
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    They really are good and a nice person to deal with i bought two for my 71 which is in the fettling forum. If you had say 75% of the original decal on the tin then i personaly would keep the original on but when you only jhavae that much then i think its worth replacing
     
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  8. Doc Mark

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    Hey, Matt,

    I'm so glad that one of "us" ended up with that one! I tried for it at the last moment, but my bid was eclipsed by someone else, probably you, and was never even registered. I very happy that this stove is still "in the family", so to speak!! Well done, and thanks for sharing it with us! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
  9. mbechtel

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    Hi Doc,
    I'm glad I got it, but at the same time, sad to have beat a CCS brother. I've been corresponding with the seller who was sad to see it go, but I felt very good about how happy he was with the final purchase price. He really had no idea what he had and was shocked at how much he got for it. I had to swallow hard too, to invest that kind of money into it, but I knew I'd probably not have another chance at one for a very, very long time.
    You would like him, he's a real nice guy. I've already given him updates on what I've done to it and the restoration that will still be coming. I've assured him that when the time comes to pass it on to another collector it will be in just as good a shape, if not better than when I received it. After all, none of us really own anything...we are just stewards of what we possess until someone else comes along and we pass the torch. I know that if you had won that auction it would be in very good hands as well!
     
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    Okay, I'll admit it. I'm confused...
    There is a silent and a roarer Primus 41?
    I have a roarer 41...
     
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    Hi Steve,
    I believe so. The Primus 41 Reference Gallery has a mix of silent and roarer burners. The tank on mine is marked 41, but it's tough to get a clear picture of it. I can tell this stove hasn't been "messed" with by anybody, it's just too nice. I'm assuming it's like the Radius 43 with both roarer and silent.
     
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    Okay. Either version, they're handsome, well built stoves!
     
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    Very nice stove , wow, :clap: :clap: :) :) :mrgreen:

    I was wondering whether anybody knows if that's a Primus #4155 burner ? Sure looks like it.

    Tom
     
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    Hi Tom, according to the 1957 Primus Catalogue the burner used on the Primus 41 is a #4151.

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Hi George,

    Yes, I see the #4150 is the roarer, but can't find the #4151 RSB listed anywhere. Do you have the internal link ? I have a Primus #56 , to be posted asap, and I beleive it sports the #4155.

    Tom
     
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    Hi Tom, the 1957 Primus Catalogue is not available on-line.
    Sorry.
    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Too right!

    It's only ever going to sit on top of the peaks of the 'crinkles' and not follow the contours so I guess that tests the durability of (i) the adhesive (or whatever bonds a water-slide decal onto the base finish) and (ii) the resistance of the material the decal's made of to breaking up and fragmenting as the original did.

    Worth repeating what I've already said, but lovely stove you've got there Matt!

    John
     
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    The 4151 burner is referenced for the 41 in the 1947 catalogue & the 4155 for the 56 as you quite rightly state. The only apparent difference from the list of component parts is that the 4151 has a fold down control knob whereas the 4155 has a rigid one that screws to the burner.

    As you says the 41 that's the subject of this thread appears to have 4155 burner as does one other listed.

    The '47 catalogue (courtesy of Nils Stephenson) is queued with a mass of other material to come on the site but I don't have a '57 full catalogue on file yet.
     
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  19. mbechtel

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    Thanks John,
    I've ordered 2 decals. If I don't muck up the first one, you can have the second one if you want it. I'll let you know how it goes.