Barthel Bunsen Burner 'Korall'

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  1. pietpararrafien1

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    Hello Everyone

    I recently acquired an paraffin item, that I can't find any information on. The Stove/Lamp id labeled "G. Barthel":

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    I have no idea what this is used for. Any information would be much appreciated, particularly regarding whatever items were attached to the "arm". If anyone could add some pictures detailing this item, it would be a great help.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Hi pietpararrafien1

    Such a nice, unusual stove!!
     
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    What you have there was classified as a laboratory burner - this model is the 'Korall'

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    Hi pietpararrafien1,

    I have recently started to restore a G. Barthel Bunsen Burner 'Korall'. See attached picture.

    I would be grateful for advice on what fuel to use and any tips on how to operate?

    Do you still have yours and is it running?

    Thanks,

    Brassmonkey.

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    Hi @Brassmonkey , Piet has made a single post on april 1th, 2008 and has not come back since.
     
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    Thank you for the feedback Wim.

    I hope that Piet has not had a misadventure with his G. Barthel Bunsen Burner 'Korall'!

    I guess I will have to wait and hope that one of the members has some information or experience and can help.

    Regards

    Brassmonkey
     
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    The Bartel Korall Bunsen Burner is designed to run on Paraffin/ Kerosene.
    If you chose to become a subscriber you will have access to the Catalogues in the Library section.
    Highly recommended and excellent value.
    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Great! Thank you for the response Kerophile.

    Subscription now paid so here we go......!!!!

    Regards,

    Brassmonkey
     
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    Thank you Kerophile! Fantastic information links. Appreciated!

    Now in the process of sorting a new rubber or cup for the pump and hope to have it running soon.

    I will video the first lighting and share on the forum.

    Kind regards,

    Brassmonkey
     
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    Can anyone help?

    Tried to get the G.Barthel running today with little success. I had trouble with a leaky NRV. I have attached a picture of the NRV in the hope someone can suggest a suitable replacement or where I can get one made.

    Followed the Lighting procedure for a Paraffin stove and particularly Additional notes for stoves with a flame control tap supplied by Kerophile, but had a problem controlling the flame. I believe there may be a jet missing in the vapoursing tube see attached photo.

    Also need a leather cup or fuel resistant washer for the pump - 25mm diameter with 6mm central hole. Can anyone suggest where I may be able to locate one?

    Any suggestions on how to renovate, light and control the burner would be gratefully received.

    Cheers!

    Brassmonkey.

    G. Barthel - NRV. Labelled..jpg G.Barthel - Burner jet. With labels..jpg G.Barthel - Flame spreader openening from bottom..jpg G.Barthel - pump body and rod..jpg G.Barthel complete..jpg
     
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  13. Simes

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    Under different circumstances I' pop over, would be nice to see it in the flesh. I'm inly 40 mins from you.
     
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    1 oring is not good choice for seal pump on flat surface
    ...The pump seals to the tank with a fibre washer with a thin lead washer behind...
    Juwel No:6


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    2 NRV "body" seal
    best seal is thin lead
    3 NRV
    - just use fresh vitton
    - clean internal surface - to preserve "spring hanging"
    4 leather washer for the pump
    - easy to be done
    6 missing jet
    what is "mount" diameter?

    Juwel No:6
    that is similar construction
     
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    Thank you Christpher for sorting photos to thread.

    Hi gieorgijewski thank you for the advice and response.

    1 O ring - I agree with your comments. O ring is temporary whilst I source fibre washer with correct diameter.
    2 I have now found thin lead washer for NRV and will fit it shortly.
    3 I have tried to separate NRV to gauge diameter of Vitton pip. It is stubborn and I do not want to damage it in my haste to renovate, so will try non destructive methods to free up and dismantle. Does anyone know where I might locate Vitton to make one or buy pip readymade?
    Will check internal surfaces as you advise and make sure spring is free.
    4 I was hoping to cheat and buy a leather washer but can make my own as you advise. I have watched the brilliant vidoes on forum on how to do this.
    6 missing jet. - "mount" diameter is 5mm and has a thread. See photo.

    Thanks and regards,

    Brassmonkey

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    Hi Simes,

    Under different circumstances I would take you up on the opportunity!

    How about we meet up for supper on Salisbury Hill, Bath ( of Peter Gabriel fame) when COVID 19 issue is over?

    By supper I mean we each take favourite stove to the top of Salisbury Hill and cook bangers and Beans or something. Nice view of sun set over Bath and not difficult to park and climb.

    By my reckoning Salisbury Hill is 'bout halfway. You live near Warminster don't you?

    Anyway just an idea.

    Cheers!

    Brassmonkey
     
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    @Brassmonkey

    That sounds like a plan, I'll bring an 8r and sandwiches. :D

    Must correct your spelling.

    Solsbury Hill - Wikipedia

    To be honest a walk up there has been on the to do list as I've never done it. Typical I used to drive past every day saying to myself I should. :thumbup:
     
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    Simes,

    Ooops.... Solsbury! I walk up there occasionally so should know how to spell it by now ](*,)

    Best part is I nearly said ''like the song by Eric Clapton'':-({|= as well as getting the spelling wrong!!

    Look forward to meeting up once we get the all clear!

    By the way. What is an 8r? :-k

    Cheers

    Brassmonkey
     
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    The 8r is a neat paperweight Optimus made for several years, although some members seem to be able to boil water with them.

    PTC & POST PTC OPTIMUS 8Rs
     
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