Recently purchased this stove. Nice condition. Came from Poland. Needs some work - flame shot is about all it will do. No nice blue flame. Tank is in great shape and needle valve and all gaskets are good. I did take it apart and replace the wick. Beginning to think the jet may be oversized. Any ideas if any other jets would work
Hi, a bit of a long shot, but read this old post: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/enders-9060-d-problem.8075/ Best Regards, Kerophile.
Great link - thanks. My caps are in the correct position. But I will try the carb cleaner trick - I did blow out the burner are when I had it apart. Wasn't sure how to remove the cleaning needle though. No parts diagram came with stove. Wanted to tear it all down. Will look at it again tomorrow
Your Bat appears to be in a great condition. You seem to have done all the right things so far - replaced the wick, checked all seals. The flame shot shows that something is definitely wrong because it should look like this. The jet may well be the problem. What fuel are you using?
Yea I wish it looked like that. It is a nice stove, very well built. I am using Coleman fuel. I even tried paraffin before I changed the wick. I would like it even better if it did. Going to have to see about a jet ( might be difficult ) or see if some other brand jet will work. Haven't figured out what the numbers on the jet mean. The old wick really wasn't that bad.
Would it also just need an extra long preheat? Some of those German stoves just take extra long ones to get going especially at altitude. I have a 9060 that requires just a touch longer preheat than a Svea 123. I even did a wick replacement, which is a royal pain to do.
Yep tried the longer preheat. No luck. Even let it burn for about 45 minutes. Same big yellow flame. Gonna try to find a jet.
Hi Fyrwokr, How far open is the control valve? It doesn't look like a huge fire ball so are you getting enough fuel through to the burner? What fuel there is is clearly not mixed properly with enough air. @kerophile posted a while back about a phenomenon that I think he called a "toroidal vortex" where the speed of the fuel coming out of the jet drives the mixing of fuel and air beneath the burner plate. For it not to happen you either need a partly blocked jet so there is insufficient fuel or a massively over sized jet. I know this might be a daft question but as you have no instructions, is the lower cap the right way up? The gap between the jet and burner plate is critical for fuel mixing too. Perhaps Trevor @shagratork can advise. Regards John
Hi, I'm not guilty of mentioning the toroidal vortex... It was gotnoeyebrows: Check out this thread: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/british-army-no-12-with-a-midicap.14231/#post-143052 Best Regards, Kerophile.
I am sorry that I do not know the answer about the lower cap. The image I showed of a similar stove burning well came from our Gallery. However I think you make a good point, John. It looks like the lower cap/disc would physically fit either way up - but only one position will work correctly. The top cap is certainly the right way up.
Hi, please can you measure or estimate the aperture diameter of the jet fitted to this stove? I would expect it to be between 0.25 and 0.3mm for it to operate with Coleman fuel. If it bigger than this range you probably have the reason for the observed behaviour Regards, Kerophile.
I was looking at the dismantled picture of the Bat burner, an attempting to compare it to those of the Enders burner; I got the impression (that may be wrong) that notwithstanding the apparent similarity, the tho burners are different: Enders burner top perforated sides are more steep then those of the Bat. In the picture the Bat perforated top cap and the ring seems to be of the same height. If it is really so, mounting the ring and the cap as they are shown (and as is the right position for cap and ring for the Enders) there seems to me to be no space left from the ring sides and the cap perforated sides. In a word, and just judging only fron the given picture, I believe that the ring in the Bat should go upside down with respect of that of Enders. A try may be worthwhile.
Hi, CCS Member zzz (aka Ian) kwows a lot about these stoves, why not send him a personal message asking him for advice? Regards, Kerophile.
