Bat K3 1950 -

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  1. dusan

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    No Country sign (Germany or GDR) but still "PERFEKTUS " parts.
    " S " Sonderklasse is Quality stamp.

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  2. igh371

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    Now that is an interesting discovery. BAT still using up 'Perfectus' parts in 1950. So presumably that means the 'BAT' enterprise in the old East Germany had taken on whatever was left of the pre-WW2 Ernst Hãhnel company premises?
     
  3. keeper_of_the_flame

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    Hi Dusan

    interesting piece you have. On picture 5 the markings can help to find out the production year.
    The " S " was invented 12. June 1950 till 8. Septembre 1960.
    The number code below is the so called " regionaler Grundschlüssel" RGS ( regional basic code ) and was invented by the soviets in former GDR in 1948 and was valid til 1952.

    38 - indicates the branche : metall & iron production

    3xx - indicates the county and town, but I don`t have concrete infos on that.

    0106 - indicates the company itself

    so that can mean that your stove was produced very early 50`s.

    After July 1952 they changed the system into so called "territorialer Grundschlüssel" TGS (teritorial basic code) and the 3xx number was changed into a 4 numbers xxxx . BUT - the companies were allowed to use the old system on their products till 1956 except for new models.

    So with your stove you can be shure it was produced after June 1950 and before 1956.

    Peter
     
  4. gieorgijewski

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    Similar example has iron/brassed tank - bottom & top
     
  5. dusan

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    Yes, is magnetic.
     
  6. OMC

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    Hi Dusan,
    So, your stove is "...after June 1950 and before 1956".
    I will add more info here which supports what you say (in another post):
    "...same (GDR)BAT stove has before name PERFEKTUS . It's same stove, same work, many same people on work, same place..."

    Above your BAT (/Perfektus) has these #s that indentify it S_ 38 / 396 / 0106 _K3
    Below this Perfektus has these same # s that identify it.... S_ 38 / 396 / 0106 _K3

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    Given borders change but places are renamed, we do know this is 1950-56, so with that,
    in future... I will like to learn answers:
    What county and town is 369?
    and
    What company is 0106?

    Additionally, above we see a BAT & Pefektus from same place but not a pair. "I think" we could expect there are examples BAT & Perfektus that can be nearly identical twins (ie I've seen BAT 1s that closely resemble the above Perfektus). One day we may see such a pair on CCS.
    As mentioned, they could be but these two are not a pair and fwiw this is what is above:
    BAT model _____?, roarer, collapsible, short hex riser uses hex adapter, wing tank lid (no reserve lid)
    Perfektus model ____?, roarer, fixed leg, tall round rizer attached to tank, flat tank lid (no reserve lid)
    thx omc
    tag @dusan tag @keeper_of_the_flame @gieorgijewski
     
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