Canadian Coleman 530 - dated 1947

Discussion in 'Coleman No:530 'GI'' started by presscall, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. presscall

    presscall United Kingdom SotM Winner SotY Winner Subscriber

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    Handsome stove, whichever 'face' you look at

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    Canadian Coleman

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    Flicking out those pot rest 'fingers'

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    I'd to service the burner and fuel/air pickup to get the stove working

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    The burner basket was breaking free of the mounting boss ...

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    ... and had to be silbrazed, with the additional benefit that getting it up to brazing temperature unseized the threads of the generator tube to burner basket joint

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    Working properly now, I just have to locate a funnel and wrench, maybe a simmer plate too

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    John
     
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  2. Rick b

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    Hi John. Nice Canadian 530 and a good fettle to get it going again, lovely flame shots too!
    canon-joe might have the funnel and wrench.
     
  3. shagratork

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    Hello John

    I have to admit a liking for the 530 stoves.
    They are so well made - and they look it too.
    It is the refinement of the WWII 520 but made for public rather than military use, and was introduced in 1946 so that Joe Public could have a 'GI' stove just like the army had in the war.

    So what does it have different to the 520? The obvious differences are the brass tank, the chrome or nickel finish on the tank and the mainly stainless steel upper part structure.

    There are other differences, but the ones I mentioned are the obvious ones at first glance.

    The one thing I miss from the 520 is the three fold-out tank supports that help it to not tip over.
    I am not sure why the 530 does not have these. Maybe it is because the brass tank bottom can not support the feet without damaging itself? Maybe someone with a better knowledge of the 530 could say why.

    Anyway, it is a great stove you have there John and as usual I am sooooooo impressed by your brazing skills.

    I notice that your new 1950s kettle goes well on the top! :)
     
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    Thanks Rick for the tip regarding a source for the missing funnel and wrench.

    Well spotted Trevor, in respect of the kettle!

    1950's camping kettle


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    Yes, there's a distinct lack of the 520's fold-out stabilising legs ...

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    ... but the stainless steel in the superstructure is a welcome refinement

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    John
     
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  5. David Shouksmith

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    Yeah, so did I. All mine was, though, the stove had been left with fuel in it so the fuel pickup tube was encrusted in blue crystals of some sort. I can't remember how I removed them but it was easily done and the stove runs like a champ... :thumbup:

    My account of the fettle is somewhere on here but it was years ago so probably well-buried by now. :-&
     
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  6. Hrydarcik

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    Great looking stove...the Lanternking on Ebay has very good repro funnels...and he's a great guy to deal with.
     
  7. DAVE GIBSON

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    I got one of these some years ago, long before I thought about stove collecting. Nice stove, works fine but I don't use it much as the pots are more for heating cans than really cooking.
    But anyway what struck me was all those pot supports held by cotter pins. The amount of hand labor to put those in must of been one of the reasons they stopped making them.
     
  8. Hrydarcik

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    BTW...these stoves light much easier if you install a preheat cup on them. I use either a cup from a Coleman 237 lantern or the cup/nut from a M1950...makes lightup flare free. I don't know why Coleman didn't equip them with preheat cups since they did on the 520s.
     
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    Shagratork said,

    Regarding that latter point, Trevor, the fuel tank base is steel, the rest is brass - like most Coleman 500's (exception to the rule, a WWII cream-coloured painted and entirely steel fuel tank version - presumably to economise on brass Couple of wartime Coleman 500's)

    For me, it's the user-serviceability of the 530 that's an improvement on the 520.

    Take a long-bladed screwdriver ...

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    ... and the four screws are quickly removed, allowing free access to the burner

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    Fuel cap, pump, control knob and jet pricker control each occupy a quadrant around the circumference of the stove ...

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    ... compared to the arrangement on a Coleman 520, on which just the three pot rest uprights force a cramped compromise

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    On the 520, the burner has to be removed to get the pot rest off and to remove the burner, the pump has to be removed first, also the tank filler cap (true for the 530 also), to provide sufficient clearance for the burner to unscrew. Even then access to the burner is restricted because of the pot rest uprights, which can't be got out of the way until the burner's removed ...

    Good tip Hrydarcik about the primer cup, though I'll be keeping this one original. Curious that the famous 'Quick-light' Coleman feature doesn't work as on contemporary Coleman stoves (such as the Speedmaster) and lanterns. I suppose it's because of the short generator that's not directly heated by the burner flame but relies on conducted heat transmission from the burner bell. All the quarter-turn of the control wheel does is moderate the level of flaring by delivering a leaner mixture but doesn't eliminate it.

    John
     
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    Hello John

    Thanks for the more detailed comparison between the 520 and the 530.

    Yes, I did make a mistake talking about a brass base on the 530.
    I remembered about the top part of the tank being brass, but forgot about the base not being brass.
    Instead of finding and looking at one of my 530 stoves, I relied on my memory.
    So you all now know what my memory is like! :lol:

    I still wonder, however, why the 530 does not have 'stabilisers'.
    When I have used a 530, I have always had to make sure that it is on a stable, flat surface and that the pot/pan I use is placed as centrally as possible on the stove.

    Of course, if the pans which house the stove are used, the stability problem decreases because of their small diameter.
     
  11. idahostoveguy

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    Love the pics and the fettle. I especially like the four faces of the 530. Nice.

    Cheers,
    sam
     
  12. monkeyboy

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    I'm thinking about picking up a 530 I found today in a shop.
    The idea of fitting a pre-heater cup makes sense.

    "BTW...these stoves light much easier if you install a preheat cup on them. I use either a cup from a Coleman 237 lantern or the cup/nut from a M1950...makes lightup flare free. I don't know why Coleman didn't equip them with preheat cups since they did on the 520s."

    Excellent info
    Much appreciated
    Hyrdarcik

    buzz
     
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    Actually pretty amazing fettle, I don't know where you get the confidence to do such great work. Must be innate/instinct.

    Great pictures,,convinces me to go for the stove in the morning and of course fettling her back to life. g.I. Stove maybe it's a he.
    Is there an image of the 530 wrench on the forum?

    buzz
     
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    The standard wrench is pictured here
     
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