In an effort to go "greener" I have switched back to white gas. I was delighted to purchase a pretty much new coleman 413 stove. Of course I wanted to light it up immediately but to my shagrin...nothing! I pumped up the stove..tension feels good on the pump,. although I expected the pump to start easier and become progressively harder as pressure rose. It was the same tension through out. I pumped it up to 40 times. I also would have expected that when I unscrewed the filler cap, if the tank was pressurized that I would hear the hiss of air escaping...again nothing. I took the tank off and tried seeing what would happen when I opened the valve with the tank off. The gas just dribbled out a bit...later on nothing came out. So experts, am I in to repairs or do I have to take everything apart and clean it completly? Anyone have an instruction sheet on how to take apart these things? Thanks, Marlowe
Greetings, Congrats on securing a nice Coleman 413 stove. They are great workhorses and should do for you, nicely, once you get a few kinks worked out. I would suggest you remove the pump rod, and soak the pump leather in olive oil, overnight. Then, remove your fuel cap and look inside it. Do you see a rubber gasket ring down inside the cap? Or, even if you see one, is it as hard as a rock? One way, or the other, you will need to replace it with a good Nitrile gasket/o-ring. Without doing these things, it's likely that your 413 will not work properly. If the gasket in your fuel cap is hard, then you will have to remove the screw from the outside of the cap, which is not always an easy thing to do, then burn out the old, hard gasket, and install a new one. Should work fine after you do both of these things. Best of luck, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Um, you did turn the pump handle counter-clockwise before you started pumping ? Coleman has a locking one way valve. Otherwise, what Doc said...
It sounds like a number of things most of what has been already told to you. only other thing i would add is that sometimes the one way valve in the pump mechanism gets gummed up and even though you open the valve when you start pumping, it is clogged and you get resistance but none if very little air getting into the tank. check out this link on how to rebuild a coleman stove and tank it will give you all the info you need to get that 413 purring again! http://www.oldtownyucca.com/coleman/tech/re_stove.htm
Ah the simpleness of it all! Thank you everyone. Steve hit it right. I didn't know the pump locked. I turned the knob counterclockwise and voila! no resistance. The tank pumped up and lit wonderfully....isn't the odour of burnt arm hair wonderfull? Yes I will light the burner a little more quickly after opening the valve next time! I will also replace the washer inside the filler cap before it fails me when I need it most! Thanks Doc! Is it common for the second burner to burn a bit weaker than the primary one? It adjusts well etc but the flame isn't as strong as the primary. Also, I am going to be giving it a good clean. Is it ok to put a light coating of oil on the sheet metal plate that sits below the burners prior to storage to prevent rust?
That's a nice looking stove. Yes the #2 burner is weaker, and you will notice the main burner dims a bit when the second it lit. There is still plenty of heat for cooking. Before you scratch the paint on that pristine cap, you might just pick up a new one-piece cap for a couple bucks, and just hang on to it as a back up in case the one you have starts to leak. It will be brass instead of red, but it looks ok and should fit all but a couple older coleman stoves/lanterns made in the last 50-60 years. Frank at Oldtownyucca sells the proper gaskets for the old-style cap if you want to replace it.
That's great! Thanks for the tips! Another one arrived today...still new in box! Don't tell the Missus...lol beeman
Hey, beeman86; Greetings, and welcome, from a fellow Canuck! (Still wet behind the ears!) Not sure which model of 413 you have, but here's a link to the US Coleman site containing a .pdf of the user manual, including operating instructions and parts list for the 413G: http://www.coleman.com/coleman/images/pdf/413g.pdf I love the artwork in it! As the manual suggests, you may want to "Avoid problems by keeping a spare generator, No 413A5621 on hand", for when it may become needed. Here also is a link to the Canadian service centres, from which parts *may* be obtained: http://www.colemancanada.ca/Warranty/Default.en.aspx I have had mixed success on that, and then only with the Canadian stove variants. Some parts such as fuel caps and pump assemblies seem to be somewhat universal, and are also available from Canadian Tire I have found, although certain other parts you may have to dig deeper for on the net. Be interested to know which model the new package contained. Eh? Best, Michael [|*|]
Thanks guys! Michael, I will check out those sites for spare parts. I did pick up some spare things: filler cap. leather washer etc from CTC the other day. Both stoves are 413G's I spent a rainy day today thoroughly cleaning the one stove. After I applied some turtle wax to the case and tank. It came out nicely. I was trying to determine what year is was. I had heard that the year waas stamped on them but I couln't locate it. The second stove was NIB. I was very pleased. Even the instruction booklet was in it..all in English, which should say something about it's age. On the bottom of this one is stamped 5-79. Does this mean it is a 1979? The tank and grill are different than the other and the holes stamped in side ends of the body are round instead of diamond shaped as with the first stove, which I believ is the older of the two. Anyway, here they are. The new stove is on the left with the instruction booklet Enjoy your day! Beeman
Beauty stoves! Looks like you might have made a good start on 'backup' The date is often stamped on the flanges on the tank that mount to the body of the stove, usually the reverse side... HTH, Michael [|*//
Thanks, The flanges on the new stove read 379. The '79 may coincide witht he 5 - 79 on the bottom of the body. On the other it reads 377. A '79 and a 77 stove?
Seems to be within the range that they were made -- I think mine's mid-70s. According to the stove chart on the International Coleman Collectors' site, the 413G model was made commencing in 1965: http://www.colemancollectorsclub.com/tech_models.htm#stoves but it is not clear from the info when it was stopped, if at all. Anyone? Michael [|*|]
Last week, I dug out an ancient yardsale Coleman 413 F that had been long awaiting repair. I dismantled and cleaned the tank, cleaned out crud wherever it was found and visually inspected the tank as best able. Then it was filled with gas and pumped up. Almost immediately, I saw a fine stream of gas coming out a small pinhole in the tank. This pinhole was not in the bottom of the tank but on the side, just next to the seam about a third of the way from the end of the tank. It is my opinion that this was stress corrosion, and not caused by moisture in the tank. As such, I would certainly recommend pressure testing any suspect tank prior to trying to light the stove. Just pump the tank up to pressure and let it sit and see if any leaks develop. Had I attempted to light this tank, I am quite certain the end result would have been rather dramatic, and very unsafe. Ken H.
