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Coleman Canada 411 restore

Discussion in 'Coleman No:411' started by Blueflame, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. Blueflame Canada

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    Did a restoration on this 411. Removing the 40 year old baked on paint was a chore, but I'm happy with the results. Still has some minor dings. Even made the decal myself....printing white is not easy.

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  2. presscall

    presscall United Kingdom Subscriber

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    Very smart. Great work.

    John
     
  3. Robert Bruce

    Robert Bruce Australia Subscriber

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    Looking good, I am sure this will be a user. Well done.

    Cheers
    Rob
     
  4. shagratork

    shagratork United Kingdom Moderator Subscriber

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    Hello @Blueflame
    You have a lovely Coleman Canadian made 411.

    Yours is an unusual stove that does not fit in with the normal naming of Coleman stoves.
    Over the years, Coleman brought out many new models and when doing so they used a higher model number than the previous models.
    I have many adverts of Coleman stoves.

    In 1938 they had stoves with model numbers such as 2B, 3H, 4F or 6B.
    Later in that same year the model numbers for sale changed to ones such as 412B, 413B, 416B, 418B, etc.
    So what about model 411?
    I have found no mention of it from the years near 1938.

    Your stove has a clear '63' on the fuel tank and I believe that is the date of manufacture.
    I have found two sources that confirm this manufacture date.
    The first is to be found here.

    The second is to be found on Youtube:




    So your stove is approximately 54 years old.
     
  5. Blueflame Canada

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    These Coleman suitcase stoves (after the war) are somewhat interchangeable in that the fuel tanks can be used on several similar models. Since tanks are interchangeable I would not take the production dates as definitive unless some model number is found on the case itself. However there are very knowlegeable collectors who can ID just about any stove and it's production run.
    BTW you are correct, the 411 seems out of sequence I agree.
     
  6. OMC

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    Blueflame,
    Thanks for posting this, I like it.
    re "...there are very knowledgeable collectors who can ID just about any stove and it's production run." that's refreshing to hear.
    Eventually Coleman US & Coleman CA suitcase model sequence info and other details will become more clear (to more of us :content: ). Here we see 411 examples 1963 & 64. (the you tube's potential 1954 example above, I'd view as unconfirmed). It would be good to know more re potential for anything pre-63 re the 411.

    I'm unsure as to what model may have preceded the 411?
    A sequence I initially considered is:
    ? ... 411, 411A, 421, ... 421D, 421E, all same / very close in size to 4M (&425s).
    As for it's successor the 411A, Marsh has a '66 example. If 412 is a successors to the 411, subsequent 421s span approx 1968-77...?
    thx again omc
     
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  7. Stovaholic Canada

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    Roughly, + or - 1 year.

    411: 1962-1964
    411A:1964-1966
    421: 1966-1968
    421A:1968-1969
    421B:1969-1971
    421C:1971-1974
    421D:1974-1977
    421E:1977-1982
    431: 1982-1989

    Hope that'll help.
     
  8. salan3

    salan3 United Kingdom Subscriber

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    That looks great. A lot of work has gone into restoring that.
    I am curious as to how you got the burners and grate so 'clean' ?
     
  9. Blueflame Canada

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    The burners and grate were cleaned of rust then spray painted with VHT (very High Temperature) flame proof aluminum paint. I cheated I guess, but the paint remains intact even through heavy use.
     
  10. OMC

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    @Stovaholic welcome!
    Not sure where you found details, creating a complete chronological list like yours is often quite challenging, even more so as non-subscriber. My thanks to you for your efforts and for your list. It looks good and is very helpful detail.
    In meanwhile I was wrong to mention 412 (related to 411), as the 412B for example is a US Coleman.
    best regards omc