E. Hähnel, Perfektus 50, 1990(?)

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  1. SMolson

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    An Ernst Hahnel Perfektus 50, circa 1990 is my guess, in unfired condition. I have no idea of her age, but judging by her condition and build quality (a little sub-standard) I'd say within the last 2 decades anyway. There is no indication on the stove where it was manufactured.

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    Two main pieces: the stove/burner and a wrap around draughtshield/pot support. On the top (upper left in the image) there is a '1' stamped inside a triangle and a series of numbers, what appears to be '38/369/0106'.
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    Both the steel tank and draugthshield painted forest green. No stamping on underside of tank.
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    Circular draughtshield/pot support is notched in place. Pump tube, vent screw and fuel cap all accessible.
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    To remove the draughtshield one must unscrew the vent screw from the filler neck, rotate the pot support to free up the notches then tilt forward and off.
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    The only identifying mark on the stove is the Perfektus 50 sticker below the filler neck.
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    Standard 4-tubed brass silent burner with brass spirit cup. Slight depression stamped surrounding the extension tube.
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    1 piece brass silent damper stamped PERFEKTUS.
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    Similar in design to Primus burner 4140 (although not nearly as big) without any center tube.
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    One piece silent damper has steel inner cap with long center tube brazed to the brass outer cap.
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    Standard brass fuel cap and vent screw, both stamped PERFEKTUS.
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    Pump cylinder designed to stick well out from main body in order to support pumping when wrap around draughtshield is in place. Aluminum pump knob and rod.
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    Short pump rod, brass pump cap, standard piston setup with leather pump cup.
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    Fuel cap with hardened synthetic (unknown material) gasket.
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    Steel filler neck, grooved.
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    To get her running, all she needed was her pump cup oiled, a burner washer between spirit dish/burner + new fuel cap gasket (viton). 1/2 filled fount with kerosene and primed her with methyl alcohol.
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    A tad windy tonight...
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    Pump to generate pressure, vaporized kerosene ignited and burned white-blue.
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    Let run a few minutes, burn was very hot and consistent, putting out a lot of heat.
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    A decent enough stove, her unique design is what attracted me initially. Apparently this model of stove has been around since the 1930's, so hasn't much changed in 80 years.
     
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  2. Doc Mark

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    Evening, SMolson,

    What a functional, and in it's own way, lovely, Perfektus stove!! I have an older one, the Model 100, which was gifted to me by an old friend here at CCS (Thanks, Ian!), and the silent cap is almost identical to yours. Mine is plated, and has no pump. It's nice to see that basic design has not changed much from my version to yours!! Thanks for sharing it here, and thanks for the always great photos, too! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    Where does that creature come from? Is it a chinese manufacture or something? Makes me curious!
     
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    Evening,

    I seem to remember Perfektus came from Germany, or maybe Austria. But, Germany comes to mind. I'll take a peek in the Stove Gallery, and see if I posted that info there. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc

    P.S. Yep, and DUH!! I just looked, and we're in the German stoves part of the Gallery!!! :shock: ;) :doh: ](*,) ](*,) :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: So, Germany, it is, then!!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :D
     
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    It's Germany - if you've come here via Recent Posts check out the category the post is in via the 'breadcrumbs' under the navbar.

    Outstanding pics here & the other SRG posts. Good to have you back!
     
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    It is great that you have found an unfired Perfektus 50.

    I am not a great lover of steel tanks, but in this case I would love it because it is unfired and has no outward signs or rust.
    I also like the custom windshield - the design of the 123 comes to mind.

    Also, as always, wonderfully photographed for the archives.
     
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    Hi,
    "1"in triangle is GDR quality stamp.Stove must be built before 1987.
    D.
     
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    DocMark,Hi,
    or maybe Austria,can be.E.Haehnel main Work is in Heidersdorf/Saxony.Second Work since 1905 so 10km over borderline in neighborow city Brandau/C.S.R.
    Stoves are stamped 1918-1938 E.Haehnel Made in Czechoslovakia.1905-1918 is Brandau Work in Austrian monarchy.
    D.
     
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    Very nice stove you have found. Personally I had not lit it. At least not as a collector.

    Michael
     
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    Dusan.

    Quote: "Stove must be built before 1987."

    Why 1987?
    DDR (GDR) seized to exist in October 1990.

    Michael
     
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    lol Doc!

    Thanks dusan, I had no idea what the stamping indicated or history of the company, much appreciate the information. They used a different (quality control?) stamping post 1987? Do you know at what year it was (or ball park) when they used this stamping? I don't have any other Perfektus so have no clue to the build/metal quality or id marks of the others from past decades. And sorry but I don't really understand what you were stating in your 2nd post. E.Haehnel main plant was in Heidersdorf (Germany, year?), he opened 2nd one in Brandau (Czechoslovakia) in 1905? Those made in Czec. between 1918-1938 were stamped 'Made in Czechoslovakia', and what is the significance of 1905-1918?

    Thanks for your thoughts Michael. It is an issue many collectors face, but I'm primarily a user and am uninterested in collecting for collecting sake (and this one is not worth a lot). However I didn't want to mar or ruin the nice paint job on the draughtshield so it is still untouched. The burner and stove though can be cleaned and polished back to an unfired look without much effort.

    Good point Trevor, these steel founts need extra attention/management in order not to rust out. I hear some store with their fuel cap off, drained of liquid, rolled up fine cloth placed into the filler neck and stored in uniform-temp dry place.
     
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    Hi,
    1990 is right,sorry
    1885 Ernst Hahnel Heidersdorf
    1905 +Brandau post#298830
    after WW2
    1945 Ernst Hahnel GmbH Ludenscheid W.Germany
    1950 Enders+ Volcano is one mark of E.H.
    1945 Heidersdorf=VEB Sturmlaternenwerk Beierfeld
    werk Heidersdorf= BAT stoves post#89540
    after1990 or later "HPV"=Heidersdorfer Produktions und Vertriebgesellschaft post#141070
     
  13. SMolson

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    Thanks dusan.
     
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    I'm learn from other forum :
    GDR Quality range : S ,1 ,2 ,
    them "1" = II.quality
    D.
     
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    Nice one! I would have had a hard time firing that one because it looks so nice. But, then again, the flames are hard to resist!


    Resistance is futile!



    sam
     
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    One picture on top of it.
    D.

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  17. SMolson

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    An explanation of the numbering (aka Handling Number) 38/369/0106 found on the pot ring/draughtshield (shown in 2nd picture in original post):

    According to the ' GDR Product Quality and Labelling Marks ' PDF document:

    "The actual unique operation number are always the last four digits of this number sequence. When operating as mergers combine education and the like, this number could be changed despite unchanged product produced. The two or four digits of this number encrypt DDR or DDR-district district and county (see example Altix "12" = District Dresden) to the Territorial basic key of the DDR. . Triple-digit numbers before the four digit establishment number (see example Ercona "361") whose significance is not yet determined" The original posting was in German, use the 'Translate to English' option from within your browser (I use Google Chrome).

    In other words, as follows:
    38: DDR District/County number
    369: significance unknown
    0106: Unique product number

    Edit: The document also defines each of the quality codes (as mentioned earlier) and other labelling marks used by the GDR (DDR).
     
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    That looks like this Chinese wick stove I have!