Fettlebox SRV tool

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  1. Longilily

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    I support Ross, buying washers, pips from him. Gary has been very good to me, better than I deserve, so I'll spread my money. I like Gary's tool as you can exert direct pressure down if needed and I have one already. :)
    Duane
     
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    Sounds a good philosophy Duane :thumbup:

    Incidentally, the slight delay is Ross wants to check that the key fits the new 'Katadyn' cap, which he thinks may well be a slightly different size ( if so, may well involve a second Tier of drive ) , so a sort of 'Two in one' key, fitting both old and new . When he's happy either way, they'll be made.

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    Some of the 111Ts has this square hole in the SRV. A SRV tool should be able to handle both types. I have Garys penta wrench and it's a great tool.
    If Ross will start to sell these I'll order one.
    bjørn
     
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    Ok, how about a 'z' key ? The key you see above, with a bend on the other end (like a z shape ) with a square drive to fit that cap ?

    It's starting to look like a '3 in 1' tool now :shock: :lol:
     
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    Sounds like a good idea Ray! When they are available in whatever configuration I'll order one (or two).

    Best regards,

    Wim
     
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    I'm confident they'll be ready within two weeks Wim, watch the 'Fettlebox' space ;)
     
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    A Robertson Screwdriver works well for the square ones.

    Alec
     
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    Great idea manufacturing a penta-key for sale in the fettlebox! BD's are very nice but generally available in small batches for limited times.
     
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    I have checked 2 SRVs that have a square hole. Opening is 4,2 mm across the flats. Which Robertson size fits here ?
    I have found that Robertson screwdrivers come in size 0-4 and are tapered.
    thanks bjørn
     
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    Bjørn, I checked my 6 Robertson bits [R00 to R4] and they seem to be:
    R00: 1/16 in.+ or .05 in (~1.27mm AF)
    R0: 3/32 in.- or 0.0696–0.071 in (~1.77–1.80 mm AF)
    R1: 7/64 in.+ or 0.090–0.091 in (~2.29–2.31 mm AF)
    R2: 1/8 in.+ or 0.111–0.1126 in (~2.82–2.86 mm AF)
    R3: 9/64 in.+ or 0.1315–0.133 in (~3.34–3.38 mm AF)
    R4: 3/16 in.+ or 0.1895–0.191 in (~4.81–4.85 mm AF)
    but those are all approximations, since the Robertson units are tapered...

    The only square drive SRV I found around here was the one on my 199 Ranger - with roughly ⅛" or 3.2mm AF, and in that one my R2 were a loose, but probably usable, fit. (The R3 will not enter...) So it seems there were different size square drive holes?

    In the pentasided SRV holes my ~⅛" 5-point torx screw drive bit fits OK...
    And the slotted SRV seems a good enough match for my Nr 14 fork drive security bit...
     
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    Thanks Odd

    4,2 mm was wrong. Measurement is same as you found 3,2 mm AF. Sorry for the typing error.
    I'll order a R 3 and remove some metal till it fits. Btw when checking my part box I found a SRV in which a 3 mm Allen wrench fitted perfectly.
    Can't remember where I got this one. How many different types of SRVs are there ? bjørn
     
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    There seems to be three different types of 'Penta' type caps, the older version, a later Optimus version, and the 'Katadyn' version. The last two versions are a totally different size 'Penta' drive to the earlier version (As a side note, Ross's 'Penta Key' will cater for all three sizes ). There is a square drive version and a 'Fork' version as mentioned above, so that's five to start with
     
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    Are you the one making these 'Penta Keys'?
     
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    Hi Ken

    In conjunction with Ross, yes

    Cheers
     
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    Hopefully they'll be affordable. I can't check to see until the Fettlebox site comes back up on the 27th.
    Stan
     
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    "Sorry - we are closed until 27 11 November 2015"

    I am thinking the 27 was left from the last vacation and it is possibly the 11th.
     
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    Ross is away at the moment, but I'm sure he'll let you all know when there available,

    Should be cutting metal this week :thumbup:


    Cheers
     
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    Hi - these will be listed on the shop asap. Excuse the typo on the home page. Shop is closed until 11th. Partly to let me catch up with a few things. As Ray mentioned I've been away (again!). Another MTB DH race with Tom. 5 hours of driving & 5 hours in A&E yesterday & one battered lad fortunately with no broken bones to look after today.
     
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    Oh dear! I'm glad he's ok.

    Cheers

    Tony