Fettling a 1942 Coleman 500

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  1. Knight84

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    I finished fettling this stove months ago but I have been far too busy to post it. I was smart enough this time to take some before pictures of this 1942 Canadian wartime Coleman 500. Stamped C 42 (July, August, and September) of the 1942.

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    I painted the base plate in high heat silver and the windscreen as well. From what I could tell the stove came with this paint colour. The paint on the tank came out great with some work and products.

    One problem I had with this stove was 3 of the 5 screws. One that holds the manifold cover on. One that holds the manifold onto the base plate. And one that hold the flame ring/spreader down. The thread for all these machine screws is #10-24. The 2 screws that hold down the flame rings are 1/2" long and the other 3 screws are 1/4" The screw is slotted with a truss head. Simple and common enough. Well, these screws wouldn't move. Tried everything. Impact gun took off two. One of which it destroyed the head. I was forced to use a screw extractor. That would mean the screw would be ruined and I would have to find new screws. Shouldn't be hard right?

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    Living in Canada the only screw I could find that matched this had a Robinson which wouldn't match the stove. Well I ended up finding the screws online. Sadly, I have 100 screws now but it was only a few dollars. If anyone needs some let me know. I cut the screws to make some of them 1/4" long.

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    At picture limit. Second post to follow.

    Jeff
     
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  2. Knight84

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    Well, as long as I had the tools out I figured I should fettle two other 500's. A Canadian D 41 (October, November, and December) 1941, nickel tank and screw in rear of manifold. And a Canadian 47 2 (February 1947) with seafoam tank/font.

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    Cheers,
    Jeff
     
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  3. Rick b

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    Hi Jeff. Great job, thanks for the photos of your 500's. The one at the beginning of this post looks very clean as far as the paint on the font. Did you do a lot of work cleaning the other 2?
     
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    Beautiful job(s), Jeff. I've PT'd you with a request for some of those screws, needed for a Speedmaster project of my own.

    Regards,

    John
     
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    Hi Jeff congratulations on a outstanding restoration i am amazed at the end result you have brought back a American classic back to its former glory from a sad and sorry state well done there :clap: :clap: :clap:
     
  6. Big BTU

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    Love the 500's Jeff, great pictures!
     
  7. Knight84

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    Hi Rick,

    Thank you. All three fonts required cleaning. The pictures don't show the before of those two a few hours before assembly.

    Cheers,
    Jeff
     
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    Thank you John. I will be glad to send some over the pond.

    Thank you Brian. They are truly a classic worth restoring. Not the best looking but great workhorses. And did I say simmer like a champ.

    Thank you John. They are great stoves. One of my favourites.

    I forgot to mention in my first post that the cast iron manifolds were treated like cast iron skillets. I find this look to be a bit better than painting everything that silver colour.

    Also, I was discussing this stove with a historian. Though the C 1942 Coleman is painted in army green it most likely was not for front line use. Duh, right. But he couldn't find any evidence as of yet to its use. I suggest it may have been made as to a response to U-boat threats and coastal patrol. I will add all three 500's to the gallery time permitting.

    Best regards,
    Jeff
     
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    Hi Jeff,
    Your post prompted me to go find that old $2.00 beater I bought sometime back. An A 40 with the plated fount, but in way much worse shape than yours. I broke off one of the legs (at the very bottom) of the grate/grill but the other 3 should hold it all together. And of course the screws twisted off in the cast burner. Another problem is getting the controls apart to get them cleaned up - can't get the control knob out of that. I've never gotten back to it but think I will now. I'd like to beat you out of a couple of those screws also but I'll send you a PT about that.

    Best,
    Bob
     
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    Hi Jeff: Great work on great stoves. Mike...
     
  11. Knight84

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    Thank you Bob, I am very glad to hear you're going to give the 500 another go. I look forward to your pictures! I believe Old Coleman parts has grates. :-k

    Thank you Mike. I agree 100% Can't be beat!

    Best Wishes,
    Jeff
     
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  12. bootsnpearls

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    I was given a 500 as a gift from an awesome friend who knows me well! The tank looks to be brass/copper and there is a handle attached. Other than some pretty heavy rust on the grate, she looks to be in decent condition. So being impatient as always, I wanted to test it right away. First checked the tank with some CF and it came out clean - not even a speck of dust or rust so I was hopeful. But upon adding more fuel, I find that my pump has no resistance and will build no pressure. Help!
     
  13. davidcolter

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    The pump leather will be bone dry and possibly cracked. Take out the pump shaft and try soaking the leather in oil and see if it is in one piece.

    If that works, the next thing to address is the seal in the filler cap. This will certainly need changing. A video on doing this is here:

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    With those done there are other potential problems but we can cross those bridges as and when.

    You can get spares here:

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