Flea Market Juwel - 100P/C?

Discussion in 'Juwel No:100' started by Mathias, May 15, 2016.

  1. Mathias

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    Hi all, what a great forum!

    Just got this item on a flea market. Everything is in top condition, the pump and rubber fittings all work.

    Can anyone confirm or categorise the model? It looks like it is closest to the "Komfurer" model, but the pump sits in a difference place though.

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  2. janders

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    What makes you say it is a Svea?

    I have seen this model on pictures before, and been in contact with a seller that had one. He could not find any markings on it.

    I'm sorry but I don't think it is a Svea... As you say, the pump is in the wrong place. The air release is not a type used by Svea either.

    But I cannot tell you what it is - Sorry.
     
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    I moved this stove into the 'Mystery Stoves' until its identity can be confirmed.
     
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    I doubt that cast iron trivet is original to the stove. Looks like it was plopped on later.

    Ben
     
  5. janders

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    Mystery solved!

    Sometimes it takes a while before my memory kicks in. After a while I remembered a still unopened package stored away for a rainy day.
    Among its contents was this: IMG_1329.JPG
    It looks identical to the one @Mathias started this thread with. This one has the pump on the right side, leading me to assume that there was a left/right versions to facilitate putting two of these close together (like Svea with their x52/x53 and even Fuhrmeisters 7)
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    The air release and tank lid are exactly the same. So what is it?

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    Best picture I managed to get of the very worn ID tag. (the fixation holes can be seen on @Mathias stove as well).
    The text I can manage to make out reads " Juwel 100P". So it is a German stove made by Gustav Barthel. There is even a couple in the reference gallery no 1 and No 2. Those have an embossed manufacturers emblem, and are most likely older than these. They were made (at least) in the 1930s.
     
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    Great detective work.

    It is maybe a Juwel 100C, but the filler cap is on the opposite end.

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  7. janders

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    @shagratork It looks to me like that version of the 100C has the embossed logo. And the filler cap is in the wrong place as you pointed out.

    The metal bands holding the tank are the same design that was used on their alcohol stoves - should have made the connection...
     
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    Thread moved to the Juwel forum and title changed.
     
  9. janders

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    Thanks janders, title adjusted.
     
  11. Doug L

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    Great detective work Sherlock !
     
  12. Mathias

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    Wow, totally cool detective work. Sorry I only read the thread just now.

    The reason I though it was a SVEA was that the burner unit has SVEA stamped on it. See photos. But it is clearly the stove that you have connected it to, so I suppose it could be a SVEA unit inside this German base.

    Intriguing.

    I wonder where/how I can find a suitable top cap for the burner to become functional. Any suggestions?

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  13. Doug L

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    Burner caps are standard size. You can buy them on eBay. You will need an inner and outer cap.
     
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    @Doug L is correct if functional is your goal. A suitable top cap original to the stove will be a little more difficult.

    Ben
     
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    @Mathias Those stoves usually saw daily use for years and years. The burner usually was changed with whatever was available. SVEA had the largest market share in Denmark, so it is quite logical that the stove has a SVEA burner replacement.

    I'd suggest keeping an eye on the danish sites to get a cheap stove that has the caps you need.