Gnom - Ukraine

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  1. z7070

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    Also I got a Ukrainian clone of Svea 123.
    Made in early 90s

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    Manufactured in Lviv my hometown, Lvovprilad factory. This is a complete identical copy of the "PT-2 Fire" produced at the Orghiv Machine-Building Plant in the Republic of Moldova. They are rare in us. I would like to have his mother and me.
     
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    And I'm sorry to fix it, but the correct translation of the title and the spelling "Gnom"
     
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    @Andi
    Thanks. I have changed the title. :thumbup:
     
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    Looks more like a Juwell 34 clone, but yes, they updated the regulator with a Svea 123R-style internal needle.
    Gnom = gnome? A meaner, uglier kind of elf?
     
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    Many people are wrong in this, the SVEA 123 is much younger than the Juwel 33/34 stoves. Production of the 123 started in the 1950s but good(?) advertising by its makers want people to believe the design is 100 years old. In fact it is, but it is not theirs. The Juwel was around before WW2, likewise similar stoves from Primus, Radius, Optimus, Monitor to name just a few. In fact one can say the SVEA 123 was the last of them all, certainly not the one that got cloned!

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    Wim
     
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    What I meant was that the Gnom has borrowed the self-cleaning needle from the 123R. Judging by the fatter section around the regulating rod, and the sharp angle.
    Yes, I was fooled into thinking the Svea 123 was older than its 1955 debut. I bought an Arara 37 2 years ago, thinking it was a copy of a Svea. Then I found this website.
    My camp stove knowledge now bores ordinary folk.
     
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    We know the feeling....... ;) :lol:
     
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    There is little ordinary about a stovie.
     
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    ПТ-2 Огонек
     
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    Compulsion "Dwarf" is a copy of "PT-2 Ogonek" and that in turn is the clone Svea123R. Forced Gnom was issued in 80-90's. Partly when Ukraine was independent.