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Heinze Geniol (Military Stove, Germany)

Discussion in 'Petromax & Aida' started by Tony Press, Aug 1, 2015.

  1. Tony Press

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    Here are some shots of my recently acquired Heinze Geniol Military stove (ex-Germany):

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    This is the version with both a filler cap/release valve, and the manometer:

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    The pump has a nice set-up for holding the pump knob locked to the pump cap:

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    The spares and small utensils:

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    The tool and spare hold (this model has two black spanners which fit all parts):

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    Pre-heater in action:

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    Stove in action:

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    Mandatory flame shot:

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    All packed up and ready to go:

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    I think I'm going to have fun with this 5kg beast!


    Cheers

    Tony
     
  2. kerry460

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    Tony , thanks for the photos .
    i love it .

    cheers
    kerry
     
  3. jbf

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    HOT
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    john
     
  4. shagratork

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    Tony, thank you so much for your close-up photos showing all the detail that we like to see.
     
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    what kind of fuel you use it?
    thank you.
     
  6. Tony Press

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    @Wonho Kim

    I use kerosene (paraffin).

    They can run on diesel, but it not as good as kerosene.

    Best regards

    Tony
     
  7. snwcmpr United States

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    I have read here that the diesel meant in dieselkocher was the military JP8. A clean kerosene-like diesel. Not the same as the diesel for cars sold here.
    Nice stove Tony. I've 3 now.
     
  8. Wonho Kim United States

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    Thank you so much.
     
  9. asch Germany

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    In this case "Diesel" means the diesel you put in cars, trucks and electric generators. Jet fuel would be "Kerosin".
    Anyway you shouldn't use diesel in these burners as it will build up soot in the burner head which cannot be cleaned. The military didn't care about that, but a collector probably does ;)
     
  10. Peter.C Australia

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    nice stove Tony love the pre heater. Enjoy it.
     
  11. snwcmpr United States

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    The diesel THEN is different than the diesel NOW.
    Diesel in the US must be quite different from diesel in Germany also.

    I should try some diesel in this stove to be sure, but it works quite well with 1-K clear kerosene.
     
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  13. snwcmpr United States

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    Memory error. I stand corrected.
     
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    Hi @snwcmpr and @asch .

    My post was to introduce some facts into the discussion, and to reinforce the point snwcmpr made earlier that the "diesel" fuel specified for use in the Heinze/Geniol military stoves is very different from modern pump diesel one purchases for use in automobiles.

    The NATO F65 was a blend (50 percent F54 and 50 percent JP8 or JP5) In other words a 50/50 mix of diesel and kerosene!

    I use straight kerosene in both my Heinze/Geniol and British No.12 military stoves.

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
  15. snwcmpr United States

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    Thank you George.
    I only use clear kerosene also. It is one of my favorite stoves.
     
  16. Tony Press

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    I also use kerosene in my Heinze Geniols. The second one I purchased was very dirty and smelled of diesel. It was a pain to clean, and took a few outings to run as well as the first one.

    These are still my favourite "work horse" stoves.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  17. snwcmpr United States

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    Ha, that's a good way to put it.