Heinze Geniol (Military Stove, Germany)

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  1. Tony Press

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    Here is another Heinze Geniol German military stove. (The reason I now have two is a bit complicated, but involves some serious bush work coming up).

    This stove is fundamentally the same as the one I posted earlier this year (I will highlight the differences):


    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/heinze-geniol-military-stove-germany.30183/



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    It was very dirty when it arrived and had obviously been used, probably with diesel. But it came with a new filler cap and a new burner that had a "Patria" control knob:
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    It had the complete set of accessories and spares as shown in the above link, including the 1L fuel bottle:
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    My label:
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    It also had the manual and a set of work sheets:
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    The stove tank was very dirty with soot, but the burner and everything else was not. I suspect that the stove was refitted with a new burner, filler cap etc.

    I cleaned off the soot, but did not polish the tank.


    It was a big fiddle to get running properly - it always ran "underpowered". Eventually I changed the nipple (jet), and now it runs excellently:
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    Unfortunately the Geniol pressure meter does not function... I know it's redundant, but if anyone knows how to fix it, get back to me.
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    Cheers

    Tony
     
  2. snwcmpr

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    I have had trouble with 2 manometer caps on lanterns, one Aida, one Petromax. No success fixing them.
    I had to buy one from another member when he was liquidating his Petromax items.

    I have 2 of these stoves and also have a story why.
    One came from Germany full of kerosene.

    Ken in NC
     
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    Hi Tony, I have such a dead pressure gauge myself.
    Base Camp offer new replacements:

    149 Filler cap gauge, plated £16.60
    149M Filler cap gauge, brass ditto

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    I have two of this stoves too (with a story why ;) ). I bougt in Germany and both cross Europe fill of fuel (one with a leak! :doh:) even with pressure in their tanks.
     
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    G,,day Tony . you have made me jealous .
    thats fair .

    bloody nice !!!!

    kerry
     
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    Grand acquisition, the Geniol, Tony.

    Easy to check what's wrong with the gauge once the outer casing and sight glass have been removed.

    Thing to do then is apply pressurised air to the inlet (neoprene tube and blow down it) and watch what happens.

    If there's no movement, there could be an air leak in the bowden tube - the flattened spiral tubing that unrolls slightly, moving a linkage connected to the needle when pressurised air's connected to it - difficult to repair if it's not obvious where it's sprung a leak, otherwise a blob of epoxy on the pinhole would seal it.

    Or, the linkage could have become disconnected.

    Or, the indicator needle's loose on the needle pivot shaft.

    Innards of one I repaired - replaced dial and missing indicator needle, added replacement sight glass. The mechanism was battered but still worked

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    John
     
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    DO NOT SOAK IT IN CARB CLEANER. I say that after someone suggested that. It melted the glass (plastic).
    I should have known better.

    Ken in NC
     
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    Is there a cleaning needle built into this burner?

    Ken in NC
     
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