This is a New Old Stock. The condition of the left stove is a little bad. I would like to disassemble, how do you usually remove a capped cap? Is it OK if you crush and crimp the caulk and remove it? The right stove burns cleanly without problems. Left burning continues for a while and the orange color mixes like a light breath.
@Rai Before doing anything else I would try the following: 1. Make sure that the nipple is firmly tightened (do not overtighten). 2. Make sure the packing nut for the burner control spindle is not leaking (test with a match). 3. Make sure the burner is firmly tightened on the riser tube. 4. Check that the inner and outer burner caps are sitting properly on the burner. Where is the “caulk” you ask about? Tony
@Tony Press can not access the nipple because can not remove the burner cap. ・CALING MACHINE CAPABLE OF CALKING EYELET What should I say in English?
Hi @Rai Is it possible to rotate the outer cap? If you examine the photos closely you will see that this burner has a facility for "locking" the outer silent cap in position, with a quarter turn There are a couple of lugs on the burner top, and two corresponding small locating cut-outs on the skirt of the outer cap. From this thread: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/regulated-burners-i-have-known.8449/#post-83981 Try turning the cap. Best Regards, Kerophile.
@Rai If you write your question about the caulk in Japanese I will ask my friend to translate it for me. Tony
@kerophile I can not rotate it. I possess phoebus 625, but it can be removed without problems. Is there a decomposition method peculiar to this burner?
Hi @Rai, I have no other ideas! I cannot understand why anyone would want to seal the outer cap on a kerosene burner. It would mean that the whole burner would need to be replaced if there was a problem with a jet or cap! Is the outer cap welded or brazed to the burner, or have the three projections been crimped down onto the outer lip if the burner cap? Perhaps @Doc Mark can help. He is an expert on Homestrand Mariner stoves. Best Regards, Kerophile.
@kerophile There is no welding or brazing. Press fitting? This burner head. If it is this, I think I can remove it by turning. Sorry I could not explain it well.
You could perhaps try to see if you can get any rotational movement of the outer cap. However those are strange kerosene burners! The label clearly states kerosene and the stove works, producing relatively good flame patterns. However, there are no air inlet holes in the bowl of the burners! I have seen such bowls on early silent burners, from the 1920s or earlier, but never in a modern kerosene silent burner. Just to confuse things, the alcohol burners on Homestrand Mariners also have no holes in the burner bowl:
@kerophile Since the silent head is crimped, I think it can be turned if loosen it by tapping, but can not remove it without crushing the silent head a bit. Or crush crimped part one place. I do not want to transform it much, so it would be nice to have a good method.
Hi @Rai, Wait to get more replies from other CCS members before you do any work on the burner. There are some very clever and knowledgeable people who contribute to CCS. Best Regards, Kerophile.
@kerophile Thank you The temperature of the cabinet is increased by combustion, which causes the air / fuel ratio to rich. I would like to adjust the air / fuel ratio, but there is no idea to cleanly remove the silent head. Of course, items pointed out to Tony Press are also indispensable items.
How about the tool to remove an oil filter on a car. ????? If the smallest one is still too big, you can still add something around the cap..
On my Homestrand, I had to squeeze the outer cap while rotating it. I just used my hand. I'm not sure what I would do if it was too tight to remove by hand. ....Arch
@Tony Press @kerophile @JP2 @ArchMc I do not understand the terms in English, Silent cap = stainless steel (thin, no power can be loaded) Body = Brass (Vise can not be used for heat pipe) Different materials Engage with aging. · Penetrating lubricant applied · Peel off the silent cap with a tagger. I was able to remove it! I appreciate your advice. It is a range that can be corrected although a slight scratch entered like the picture.
@kerophile , @ArchMc , @Rai , George, many thanks for your kind words! I've bought 8-9 Homestrand stoves over the last 25-30 years, and most all of them have had SVEA Model 1915 burners in them. Rai's does not have a proper M1915 burner, and is of a much later time period. Rai, here is what the outer and inner burner caps look like on the SVEA Model 1915 burner. Note that this particular burner was setup for Meths, but all you have to do is remove the restrictor from the burner tube, and change the jet, and you're setup for kerosene. On the oldest ones, you don't even have to change the jet, just remove the restrictor, and you're ready to burner kerosene. Both the outer and inner caps are deeply stamped with identifying marks, as you will see in the photos. Here's what the proper burner outer, and inner caps should look like: On these burners, the outer cap just lifts off, not need to turn, or squeeze them. Lift off the outer cap, and you can see, in the burner tube, the Meths restrictor inside it. When these burners were setup for Meths (alcohol), they had an excellent restrictor, which is, by the way, my most favorite of all the restrictors I've ever seen!! When this is removed, you are setup for burner kerosene, quite well. You "can" replace the jet with a proper kerosene, only, jet, but it's not completely necessary. After seeing the photos of your burners, I will have to go back and look at all of my Homestrand burners, and see if any of them are like yours. Your's looks like a Kenyon burner, and not from SVEA, nor Optimus, if I had to take a guess. I'll check and get back to you tomorrow. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc PS - Rai, your burner looks like it may have been the last version of the Homestrand stove that was ever offered, before Kenyon took over. So, I'm thinking my guess that this is actually a Kenyon burner, rather than a regular SVEA may well be right. We'll see....
Hi @Rai I am pleased that you were able to remove the cap without damage. Your burner looks very like the alcohol model shown in the link to BD’s post that I referenced. Best Regards, Kerophile.
Hi @Doc Mark Thanks for chiming in. Am I to understand that Homestrand made and used alcohol burners modified to run on Kerosene in this case? Best Regards, George.
