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International Fuel Names

Discussion in 'Fettling Forum' started by Ian, Apr 5, 2006.

  1. Ian

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  2. Runegutt Norway

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    Some corrections/addons to Norway:

    1) Parafin, tennveske, whitespirit, lampeolje, fritidsparafin


    3)4takt milj?bensin (statoil)

    4) Kondensfjerner, hjemmebrent 95%
     
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  4. Doron Papo

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    Hi
    Runegutt - Thank you for the update on Norway it has been added and will appear on the next scheduled update
    Ross - You can update the link, I am continuing the work of Mike Buckler and he send updates my way :D
    Ian - thanks for posting it as a sticky post
    FYI - I usually update the list once a month at the start of the month
    if there are more updates please e-mail me or post here or PM me
     
  5. dsk Norway

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    Fuel- names:

    :?: Somtimes I use White Spirit =(UK) as kerosene. Some tells me not to do so, Why not?

    :?: As Rune, I have used the kerosene like fuel made for starting charcoal grills as kerosene substitute, This fuel is avalaible, not to expensive and burns soot-free.
    Wat product should I look for in UK, USA, etc to match this?

    :?: Maybe it shold have its own column i the table?

    dsk
     
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    Hi
    Kerosene and white gas are two totally different fuels :!:
    White gas is a lot more flammable - with a Flash point: >-45 ?C
    Vs Kerosene with Flash Point: >38 ?C
    kerosene stoves and lanterns not designed to work with white gas could be very very dangerous
    One very visible example is a pressure release mechanism that is available on kerosene stoves/llanterns but never on a white gas lantern/stove, opening the fuel cap of a pressurized stove/lantern containing white gas and burning will result in fire/explosion.
    This could be very dangerous replacing each other :!: :!: :!:
    For more details you can read an very good http://home.planet.nl/~veld3996/petromax_tale/petromax_myth.html]article[/url] on the subject by Neil McRae

    Its food for thought
     
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    Hi Dag

    This has been discussed on the forums before, so just a few quick thoughts :

    In the UK Paraffin = Kerosene : I believe the product was first called paraffin and then someone called it kero, probably because they couldn't spell it !

    In the UK White Spirit is not the same as White Gas, it is usually used by decorators for cleaning brushes. It is more expensive per litre so I would always get paraffin. This is getting more difficult to find in bulk quantities, or 'loose', but can be bought prepacked at hardware stores, ironmongers and the usual DIY 'sheds'

    If you want to run a 'petrol' stove in the UK Coleman Fuel is hideously expensive, so most of us use Automotive Panel Wipe from motor factors, car accessory shops etc.

    Hope this helps

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    Hi Andy

    The MSR table is interesting but I think has an error as far as the UK is concerned.

    Mineral Spirits (US) should = Methylated Spirits (UK)

    Cheers
     
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    Um, Mineral spirits is NOT meths.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12490042&dopt=Abstract

    Denatured alcohol = methylated spirits.
    I think Stoddard solvent is closer to Benzine than kero.
     
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    Hi Steve
    I apprecaite that meths = denatured alcohol + dye, but looking down the table the mineral spirits listed for Denmark is rodsprit which is used for exactly the same purposes as we would use Meths, namely pre-heating or cooking in Trangia's, so I suspect they are being a bit loose with the definition of mineral spirits.

    As far as I know Stoddard Solvent is not generally available in the UK.

    Cheers
     
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    rodsprit is meths or alcohol, same stuff, not petrol based at all
     
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    Well, all I can say is that MSR has its head up its a$$. :p
    Stoddard solvent will burn, probably great as a pre heater. Bit expensive for that tho...
    In the UK, isn't 'white spirits' a paint thinner ?? There, the msr chart IS correct. I don't think using solvent in a alcohol stove would be wise, or for that matter, a kero stove...
    Think of a puddle of brass... :oops:
    Oh well, what do I know anyway :D
     
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    Could be, Spudz,
    I've used it to clean motor parts, makes your hands tingle. If you spill it in your crotch, it burns like a M!@#$% F)(*&^ ! :cry: I would think its a bit oily for 'panel wipe' tho.
     
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    PW doesn't make your hands tingle if you spill it on them, rather it feels cool as it evaporates quickly. I haven't tried testicular application - I'm not really into that sort of thing. ;)
     
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    Well after spending thirty five years working on cars trucks motorcycles, boats and small engines, I can say I have had just about every chemical on the planet on the boys. Each and every one burned like all hell. The moral here is keep your nuts out of the solvent!
     
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    Did it clean the grease off of 'em??? The nuts and bolt that is.. ;)

    CB
     
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    Burned the skin quite a few times. We had to strip a co-worker and drag him to the wet bay covered in gas. Only time I ever washed another mans nuts, with a hose mind you, no touching of said parts. He had it in his eyes as well - flushed with water.
     
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    US mineral spirits is not the same as panel wipe. Drop a match in a bucket of panel wipe (naphtha, same as Coleman, minus rust inhibitor) and instant inferno! Drop a match in mineral spirits and it sizzles out, like kerosene. Mineral spirits is paint thinner for oil based paints and for cleaning brushes and rollers. It's also used as a degreaser, as is kerosene. It is very close to kerosene in smell. I've heard that is a good fuel in some lamps. I haven't tried it, but I will try it soon as well as "low odor mineral spirits".

    Mike