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Kettle and meths stove set, early 1900's

Discussion in 'Other Brands' started by presscall, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. presscall

    presscall United Kingdom Subscriber

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    I'd some work to do on the stove, freeing up the wick-riser mechanism, so posted details of the kettle first, here

    Thompson, Ritchie & Co (London) kettle


    Job done on the riser mechanism, here's kettle and stove reunited with the picnic set box

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    Before I review the contents, the box merits a closer look, because it's a quality piece of work

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    I'm always banging on about 'patina' on stoves but it's the handle on the box that demonstrates an effect of age and use that I wouldn't want to get rid of by cleaning. The side of the handle most in contact with the user's hand, over time, has lost the lacquer finish still evident on the other side

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    So, the contents

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    Stove made ready for use

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    Though I've put the set under 'Great Britain' here in the Stove Reference Gallery, because the kettle's English and I believe the set was marketed here, the stove is actually of French manufacture, by 'G.M'. The remainder of the lettering is an abbreviation for 'Breveté sans garantie du gouvernement', meaning 'patented without government guarantee'

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    Lighting the stove, which primes on the outer wick tube, then ignites the vapourised meths emerging from the vapourising tube holes. Within the tube is another wick

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    Having gone to the trouble of freeing-off the wick riser mechanism, I'll confess I haven't a clue what the benefit of it is. It raises the whole vapouriser tube, so I suppose it intensifies the heat when it's nearer the base of the kettle. Trouble is, if the level of meths in the tank is anything but full, the feeder end of the wick's lifted out of the fuel and the wick starts to burn. Maybe I'm missing the point ...

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    Flame shot through one of the kettle 'boiler tubes'

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    In my review of the kettle, I compared its size with that of a Primus Litech, so it intrigued me how effectively the Litech would perform in comparison

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    Not so well, the 'boiler tubes' in the kettle intended for the stove contribute to better combustion, because they act as chimneys, creating a decent 'drawing' of the flame. With the Litech's flat base and lack of those exhaust chimneys, the combustion's not so good, resulting in a slower boiling time of 5 minutes for 600 cc's of water - 3 minutes for the copper kettle

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    John
     
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    I think I've just dribbled all over my keyboard.
     
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    Nice :thumbup:

    Best regards
    Stoveuser
     
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    WOW!
    Just.....WOW.
    =P~ =P~ =P~
     
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    Gorgemous! 40% more efficient. :) Even for a vehicle trip of several days that could make a big difference in the volume of fuel necessary to carry along. I may have to modify an old kettle I have around here somewhere.
     
  6. snwcmpr United States

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    That is a beautiful set.
     
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    what was the intended purpose of the kettle? off the carriage on the roadside, in the home? for the cabin?

    just a beautiful set!

    willie
     
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    Exactly that I believe, Willie.

    It's certainly too heavy to carry far, but in an age when the rich were accompanied by mounds of luggage, it most likely would have been something to take along on touring holidays.

    John
     
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    I'm not jealous..............It's just that wherever I spit nothing will ever grow again!!!
     
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    Photo illustrating how the updraft created by the kettle's 'boiler tubes' draws the flames

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    John
     
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    loco7stove United Kingdom Subscriber

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    OOOOH Fabulous :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :D :thumbup: , just my cup of tea 8) :thumbup:
     
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    Darn burner looks like it was made from something from an adult toy shop, IMO!

    Murph
     
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    Murph said:

    Gallic phallic Murph. Raised, it turns up the heat.

    John
     
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    Thats Awsome, A real treasure keeper there.
     
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    Wow, it's beautiful, and so well photographed. You've outdone yourself with this one, John.

    And those tubes. Fascinating. And they make quite a difference. I don't know of anything quite like that although I suppose a Thermette/Ghillie Kettle/Kelly Kettle works on something of the same principle.

    Well done.

    HJ
     
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    That's a beautiful set.

    Intriguingly, I have a copper kettle with an almost identical steam turret in the lid, but with a wooden knob, and no expensive 'tubes'! In other respects, very similar in shape. The maker is Loveridge & Co. Wolverhampton.

    Love the neatly woven material on the handle. Mines a piece of coarse string!

    Superb piece of kit. Edwardian Motor pic-nic set?
     
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    presscall United Kingdom Subscriber

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    Stonehopper said:

    Apparently it was called 'wickering', seen here (left to right) on the kettle with the picnic set, a couple of Drew and Sons (1890's) picnic kettles and an Aspreys coffee can (1901)

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    John
     
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  18. snwcmpr United States

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    Now I know what I received in my mail box today.
    Just kidding, but, I did have a difficult time finding the burner with the kettle.
    Photos in a new thread soon.

    Ken in NC
     
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    beautiful

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