Last Primus 96 with a date?

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  1. hikerduane

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    Looking to round out my collection of the later models of Primus 96 stoves. I have two with no date, two coming with the date along a leg. What was the last year they had a date stamp? I have 40 different years now, running out of "finds", so working on the ones post AV/1956. Sorry for posting. Could not find the info in the Primus 96 History.
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    Hello duane,
    In the end I'm no better off than you but not for lack of trying :lol:.

    BTW Trevor provided this tutorial to sort gallery by year.
    Although worth the effort the results may not come out as good as we like ](*,).
    ANYWAY I just did that^^^^, it helps.

    kerophile is as a reliable source as anyone, he has dated his 1957 no.96 (but not sure how ?).

    hydro dated his 1958 no. 96 ( ditto?).

    We can read into your question, that another answer also awaits: what is the first year of undated 96
    (and how might we ID that one :-k )? I'll follow along and maybe learn something,
    nice to hear from you, I rish you rots of ruck,
    thx omc
     
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    Hi, I can’t examine my 1957 Pr.96 at the moment, but here is the dating of my 1959 Pr.96:

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    From this post:

    1959 Primus No.96L

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    Kerophile.
     
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    Thank you OMC and George. I have a '59 and a '62 coming.
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    I have this 1961 Pe.96 ( and the photo is in focus)

    upload_2019-9-16_19-29-33.jpeg

    From this post:

    Primus 96L- 1961

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    Kerophile.
     

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    A 1962 Pr.96 but annoyingly, no photo of the date marking on a foot of the stove, that I can see:

    Quote:
    “Ross, the entire number on that stove is 201162 and is located on the outside surface of the leg opposite the pump and filler cap.”

    From this post:

    Pocket Primus No:96 - 1962 *

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    And of course post-1962, and the formation of the Primus Trading Co. we had Optimus 96 clones, re-badged as Primus No.96 stoves:

    Primus No:96 - post 1962

    These Post - 1962 “Primus” No.96 stoves are easily identifiable by their distinctive Optimus stamped feet:

    upload_2019-9-16_20-0-31.jpeg

    totally different from the earlier, carefully shaped, stylish Primus form....

    upload_2019-9-16_20-2-13.jpeg

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Thank you. So '62 is the last marked date? Had a line on a '61 but was BIN and sold while I waited for a reply as to the date or USA shipping.
    Duane
     
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    Hi @hikerduane , Yes 1962 is the last year of a dated Primus No.96.

    Here is a link to a 1962 Primus No. 96 I have:

    1962 Primus No.96 fettling

    I will have to dig it out and take a photo of the date marking when I have the opportunity...

    Best Regards,
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    Well if the one I won today arrives safely, I'll have the last dated one. Now where is a 1910 model?
    Duane
     
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    @hikerduane If you did receive your dated '62 version, to add to your amazing collection, Congrats!

    Bryan's history is the "go to" reference
    but the various tins are not covered as far as I know.

    Today I stumbled into some interesting P96 tin details I was unaware of. Used "Primus" 96 examples pre1911 -to- 1962 will come with:
    no tin,
    basic tin in various versions (incl. gold on red "Hjorth" tin),
    The Pocket primus outfit, or,
    sport tin (ie c1931 into 1950s. [and others too I think]

    > I thought, interesting to see a Pocket Outfit still offered in '59 (aware of early Pocket outfit, same tin, ie 1917 )
    > The basic tin, to my surprise is unchanged, 1936 to 1961 /62.
    1962 being the last year of "genuine" Primus 96, the basic tin 36 thru 62 appears to be essentially the same if not the exact same tin. On the lid:
    " A/B B.A. HJORTH & CO. STOCKHOLM SWEDEN " (never "BAHCO" for P96 tins).
    P96tin51.JPG
    Thanks and credit to Matthew92: excellent example 1951
    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    BTW posts reflect that, after 62, as Optimus restarted P96 production (in Upplands factory), this is the 1st P96 tin PTC issued.
    P96tinPost62.JPG
    Thanks and credit to eagleclub as seen in post '62 example.
    Post '62 PTC P96 is a renamed Optimus 96. It's not clear to me, after the tin above, when the next version of tin came out (red, vertical orientation) or year ranges for either of the post 62 versions. BTW Optimus 96 (last?) offered in 1989-90 catalog.

    These are just some things I stumbled across, notably the many years that The Pocket outfit and basic red/gold Hjorth & Co. tin were offered (and I'm forgetting something :oops:).
     
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    The graphics did change around. I have a couple with "Original" on the lid and a couple meths dispensers to match, one embossed tin on the top(not the pocket) an one with that exporter/Distributor badge on the front.
    The dated stoves, still need a '60 and '57 of the latest models.
    Duane