Look what stoves New Zealand still uses in Antarctica!

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  1. Nzoomed

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    I was just browsing the photo library on the Antarctica NZ web page and see this photo in the gallery!
    OK, its dated 2002, but still, this says alot, as those stoves were still a good 30 or more years old even then. I would not be surprised if they still have some of these stoves in use at scott base.
    Keith Springer, Field Support officer, Works on a Primus at Scott Base
    Looks like the guy is working on a primus 96, and i see a primus 535 in the background, along with a 111 and some no5 stoves possibly.
     
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    Those stoves will outlive most of us and still be working in 50 years time with a bit of oil on the pump leather and maybe a new pip in the NRV/SRV

    Thanks for sharing!
     
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    Nice!

    I know the 111 needs a solid pre-heat to get going, but this seems to be a bit over the top?! :lol:
     
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    Modern liquid stoves still function the same anyway, albeit with better designs to allow quicker priming and better efficiency, etc, so I guess there is little need to replace fully functioning stoves that have worked all those years that are simple to service and maintain.
     
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    Not a Primus 96 but most likely Primus 210, there are two 2-pinters(1 liter) in background, one looks like 1J:or(similar burner as 210) and the other has no burner.
    Primus 1 and 5 are very similar to the first purpose built "Arctic" stoves from Primus about 1910 that made it possible for Scott and Amundsen to reach the south pole - if Scott had been as rational and organized as Amundsen he may had returned from the pole too.
     
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    Definitely not a 96, looks like a 210 or just maybe an 00.
     
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    :-k Hmmm... it's either a late Primus 210/Optimus 00(Primus tank with Optimus feet) made by Optimus - or a Radius 21.
     
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    I would say the classics, especially Primus 210/Optimus 00/Radius 21 etc, has the better design. Optimus 111 is also unrivaled for it's usage. Optimus 00 was still in production few years before the picture was taken.
    It was actually in the seeking of something better than what is made today, I found this site.
     
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    IMG_0762.jpg

    Fuzzy image of stove being worked on. Looks to be a Primus-type foot.
    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    The top of the legs have an Optimus-style bend...

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile
     
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    Agreed.
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    Diagram courtesy of the late great Bryan Miller
     
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    Hi @Tony Press Are the NZ Antarctic Survey staff the sort of people who would replace Optimus-style feet on an Optimus No 00 stove with a set from a Primus 210 stove? The Primus-type does have a bigger foot-print.
    It does look to be an Op.00 tank and there are shiny new solder areas around the Primus-style foot/socket we can see.
    Just saying,
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    A friend of mine was in Antarctica last winter (Dec 2018) doing field research, and I specifically asked her what stoves they used.
    Her answer? Coleman propane stoves.
     
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    Actually I think it's an Optimus foot; some shading or solder with the blurriness confusing the issue...
     
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    @kerophile

    I doubt the feet were replaced. The solder job, as far as I can see it, is factory. It would have to have been a conflagration to require new feet.

    Antarctica NZ is (was then) a small outfit, so most field staff were multi-skilled.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    With the Americans?
    Dec is summertime there.
     
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    @snwcmpr

    It’s a funny thing that I’ve noticed over many years working with Americans: they often say things like: “OK, let’s meet in the Spring” (regardless of where we might be meeting).

    I always respond by saying “Which Spring? Yours or mine?”. This often brings a puzzled look and hesitation until the penny drops.

    Cheers

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    Not every american is a geographical expert.