M1941 from France, AGM

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  1. davidcolter

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    This is from eBay.fr for €45.50 plus €18 p&p. It was posted from Nimes in the south of France. It was delivered about an hour ago and I took pictures during the unboxing.

    Here it is in the case, next to its M1950 brother for comparison:
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    Anyone know more about this manufacturer?
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    My first glimpse....
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    I'm not liking that rust :(
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    Voila!
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    Damn, somebody has bent the burner bell to take the burnerplate/windshield off :rage:
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    The instruction label is there but all over the place
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    Is that American Gas Machine?
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    The side panels are nice and clear
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    I did try the cleaning needle and it rotates easily and pops up out of the jet :thumbup:
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    The funnel chain is broken, but at least its there
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    Hey, a wrench!
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    And a spares tube!
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    Lets get serious and look inside the tank...
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    That's not what I wanted to see at all [-(
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    But anyway, the pump plunger looks fine
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    And the pump tube is good too
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    It towers over its kid brother
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    So I need to deal with the tank. I want a runner, but I'd like to keep the finish on the tank intact. I will have to do something to kill the rust around the feet on the base of the tank, I can sacrifice the finish there if necessary. More important will be to inspect the inside very carefully for pinholes and weak spots.

    Gentlemen, do you have any ideas or advice for me? :-k
     
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  2. flivver

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    Rinse it out then light it. What rust? It is a 1000 per cent cleaner then most I have come across, after all these were used by solders in a war. I would say yours has hardly been used. ( maybe once or so judging from photo. For a 520 it's condition would almost be considered pristine) Someone just left a tank of improper fuel in it that evaporated, a very common condition. Mike...
     
  3. davidcolter

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    Really? Awesome! :D/

    I'll be pressure and leak testing it first, of course.

    Here is a bonus picture: you can only get the spares tube out by unscrewing the burner bell. This is what I found inside...

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    A spare generator with gauze and needle inside, two gauzes wrapped around another needle, yet another gauze, a jet and a graphite packing. The spare generator has clearly been used and swapped out.

    My photos dont show it well, but it has a preheater cup and it has been used, the installed generator and the underside of the burner bell are thickly sooted.
     
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    ....You have a great stove in great shape...enjoy!!
     
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  5. itchy

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    Over 60 years old, and that is all the rust you can find? I agree with Mike, it looks to be in great shape.
     
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    Hi: It is tricky but one does not have to unscrew the bell to remove spares tube, it slips out to the bottom (later versions like yours have the longer tube with more spares). Soot is an indication of improper fuel. In your location I would suggest using panel wipe. This stove is not intended to prime to lite, see instructions (notice they do not mention priming). The early version did not have a primmer cup and the post war 530 didn't either. The reason is the normal primer-less lighting method produces a one foot tall pre-heating flame which in battle would give away your position at night. So a primer cup was installed for night lighting.
    P.S. These stove almost "never" need any kind of fettling if proper fuel is used.

    (Please put your beautiful example in the reference gallery)



    (NOTE: this (my) 1941 version has no primer cup.)

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  7. davidcolter

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    I've given it a wipe down with an oily rag to shift all the grime and bird poop and it looks almost like new! The rust on the outside of the tank is trivial. I rinsed out the inside of the tank with paraffin and about a teaspoon of rough gritty muck came out. Its difficult to get it all out because of the internal lip on the filler cap.

    I need a filler cap and pump cap seal, probably a new pump leather and I'll be ready to pressure test it.

    The bad news is, this will have to wait now because I have run out of time until next Monday! ](*,)

    The good news is, this is because I am going camping with my Radius 21 and my archery friends, bowmaking and shooting at a historic site for the public :D/
     
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    any idea where to get a funnel and windscreen/flame spreader for one of these puppies?....kchunk
     
  9. flivver

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    Hi : Kellyblues, a member of this site has parts for these, or will point you in the right direction. Also "Old Coleman Parts" in Washington State can help. The best bet fof pump leathers is CCS brother Sefa. Mike...
     
  10. Knight84

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    Nice find David!

    Yes American gas Machine made to spec.

    CM Mfg. Co. made just the containers among a few other companies.

    You have a brass tank so rust is not a huge issue. just looks like surface rust from storage.

    Cheers,
    Jeff
     
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    sorry my blonde moment of the day.

    Yes the bottom of the tank/font is steel.

    From the outside it looks great. I would just throw some steel ball bearings or bb shots in the tank and shake for a while.

    Jeff
     
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    Better yet, use a piece of small chain, so you can get it out, 'By hook or By Crook' so to speak...
    ;)
     
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