Military Valor 55?

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  1. Shed-man

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    Just got this Ex-Military Valor. It has no Model number but I think it is a No55. It has a silent burner and still has its pan-ring. It works very well and is in very good condition. The markings on the bottom of the tank are "Cat. No4906" the "military crows foot or broad arrow", and date "1951". It also has the marking "3D" on the bottom. It has three decals that are partly still legible; one is warning to use only clean paraffin (Kerosene), the next is warning about not attempting to light the stove too soon, and the third is the lighting instructions. I would like to know if it is a No55? and does anyone have one with the full decals in completely readable state?. Also does anyone know what the "3D" means?

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    Hi Again, Just asked if anyone has the stove with complete decals and wow! today found another one with the decals complete. Still no model number though, so still seeking confirmation that it is a No55. Best regards to all, Steve.
     
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    Hi Steve, I reckon you probably have a Military version of the Valor No.55 stove.

    Here are some photos of a "donor" civilian Valor No.51 that I have, and it shares several features with your stove:

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    The Valor No.51 was the roarer sister of the No.55.

    The filler cap/air release looks to be identical to the one used on your stove. However, whereas my Valor uses a conventional air pump (soldered directly into the tank) your stove appears to have a fully removable air-pump. Perhaps this was a Military requirement. I have seen a similar one on a SH&S paraffin stove made for the WD:

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/4082

    Hope this helps,
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    Kerophile.
     
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    Hi Kerophile, Thanks for the info. I am sure that you are correct. It is the same apart from the removable pump tube, and having been in the military myself I can understand why they would prefer a removable pump tube; easier to just replace the whole assembly rather than fiddle with NRV remoaval tools and pump leathers in the field. Best regards Steve.
     
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    Can anyone direct me to a supplier where I can find the pump packing for a Valor 55 stove?
     
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    Hi, Welcome to CCS.
    If by "packing" you mean the leather pump washer, these are common to most classic 1.75/2 pint classic brass stoves.

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/typical-pump-assembly.14026/

    The best ones are made and sold by a Turkish CCS member, Sefaudi, but you can also find leather pump washers listed on ebay.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-x-PUMP-...010241?hash=item4153fdb581:g:YGwAAMXQS6pRvs4i

    If you don't mean leather washers, post a picture and we will try to help.
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    Thanks for the advice. Yes it is the leather pump washer I would like. Unfortunately not many places here in Canada have them. The stove is a Valor 55, but I do not know the diameter of the cup/pump washer unless it is the same as the diameter of the pump tube

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    @Sugarman6 Send a PM to @sefaudi and he will help you get what you need. Unless he is familiar with the stove, it is the inner diameter of the pump tube that is required.

    And @kerophile had a solution a few seconds before me...
     
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    Hi all
    I'm new to the group and first post. I realise this is an old thread but I was just wondering if anyone could advise me on repairing the removable pump of a Valor 1951 dated Military stove like the one mentioned in this thread. I've just acquired one but the pump appears to be blocked as it will not allow air to flow through it.
     
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    Many thanks but this one doesn't seem to have the NRV like other stoves in my small collection. It's a Military one whereby the whole pump assembly is removable with a spanner. The valve does appear to be seized and doesn't appear to be removable...? If I can work out how to post images I will do so.

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    Hi, the NRV must be at the bottom of the pump tube. If the valve is stuck try this:

    If they are just sticking they can sometimes be freed-up by filling the pump-chamber with alcohol or kerosene, re-inserting the pump piston, tightening its cap and applying pressure. I hold the tank and rest the pump head against a door post or piece of solid wood. I then lean on it until the pump goes down into the cylinder and the liquid is ejected into the tank.
     
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    I tried you're technique but it just wasn't having it. Took the whole pump assembly out and managed to unscrew the small tube at the bottom of the main pump tube which I initially, mistakenly thought was immovable. This then freed the small sprung valve which I cleaned and reassembled. Problem now solved. Thanks for your advice kerophile.

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    Hi @Gasbag I am glad that you got it fixed.
    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Hi @Gasbag. For clarity:

    With the Military type pump you can also access the NRV from the inside of the pump tube (using an NRV key to unscrew/replace the NRV) = just like a civilian pump/NRV.

    The fully removable pump assembly specified for Military models was intended to make the stove ifield-maintainable where a soldier would not be carrying an NRV key.

    The actual NRV is identical in Civilian and Military models.

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.