Monitor 127

Spiritburner · Jun 26, 2015

Originally posted 27 June 2008 - post corrupted on import to CCSv3

algentry1 said:

Can anybody tell me what model Monitor this is?

Thanks a lot for the help. I've got it coming in the mail and I'm not even sure what it is....

Al
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Spiritburner · Dec 26, 2008

Bom Bom Bom Bom said:

Hi,

Newbie on the forum (but not to stove collecting) but as I think I know the answer I'll chip in. It looks like the early model 17b Tourist. For further details and pics have a look at the "Special Stove Feature" on the Base-Camp site.

Cheers,

Graham.
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spudz said:

Looks to me like an early 17b Tourist 1/2 pinter, with an odd filler cap. The latter 17b's had a captive burner plate attached to the burner bell, so less fiddly than a Swedish 96.

Nice one.
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algentry1 said:

Thanks, I went and looked. Mine looks to be maybe later model because it has folding legs rather than nubs underneath. Otherwise, they're the same...even the filler cap. The lady I got it from said 1940-1945. I'm hoping maybe that's right. But, I really have no idea.

Spudz,

I think that's a safety valve in the filler cap. (????)

Al
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spudz said:

Yes Al, it looks like one, but I'm not sure how you would then adjust the flame???
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algentry1 said:

I haven't got the slightest notion...
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Bom Bom Bom Bom said:

Interesting. I've got one of the later versions and can testify your tin is definitely one of the older versions. The spirit can also looks right for the older version (tall and round rather than oval and squat). Also the plug parking boss is opposite the filler cap per the older model. About the only thing that doesn't look right is the feet as you pointed out. Maybe they just been replaced at sometime if one of the originals became detached and lost?

To Spudz's question, maybe the air release principle was the same as on the Veritas stove (also of British design) where you just unscrew the whole cap to release the pressure? However, having not seen one of the older style 17b's in the flesh I can't be certain.

Cheers,

Graham.
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spiritburner said:

It's not a 17B early or otherwise.......................

......................it's a 17! But yes, the 17 came before the 17B
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algentry1 said:

Thanks, Ross!!

Is there any way I can find out more about the 17? I can't seem to find any mention of it or information relating to it on CCS. You've Really Sparked my Curiosity, since I've never even heard of a 17 before, and soon (hopefully) I'll have one to fettle. If it runs, I'll likely leave it as it is.!

Al
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spiritburner said:

I have references for the 17 back to the 1930's. Not sure when it was superceded by the 17B but certainly by 1951

The filler cap on the 17 features a safety pressure release valve.
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Spiritburner · Dec 26, 2008

spiritburner said:

I just checked out another 17 in the shed I've not closely looked at until now - it has the fold out feet like yours but the same filler cap as the 17B - also a large Monitor decal under the tank. I have pictures of another one like this as well so I don't think the caps been changed.

Looks like there was at least 3 variants of the 17

i) fixed feet & safety valve on filler cap
ii) folding feet with safety valve on filler cap
iii) folding feet with pressure release on filler cap - no safety valve

All these versions have the boss for stowing the burner cap.
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algentry1 said:

Ross,

Is it possible to somehow use the filler cap with the safety valve to adjust the flame pressure? I've never handled one.

Al
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spiritburner said:

No - as mentioned by BBBB you'd have to let out pressure by loosening the entire filler cap. Not easy if it's really hot. If you want it as a regular 'user' the boss is a standard size & thread so other filler caps with pressure releases from most other stoves this size will fit.
If you want one I've loads of them here - send me a PM.
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Spiritburner · Apr 30, 2021

Title updated - we now know the version with safety valve is the 127.

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