Discussion in 'Stove Forum' started by Twodogs, Oct 8, 2010.
Trangia Triangle is similar to the Westwind,not Clickstand. To the best of my knowledge, the Clickstand windscreen is an option (very good one) and not part of the set.
From all I've read, the Clickstand (+/- windscreen) is better than Westwind but pricier.
Also have seen something similar from Esbit (Triangle)for their alcohol burner.
Also to note: As Laitch mentioned, Clickstand comes in stainless-steel or Ti, Westwind (I believe) only in aluminum.
My Mistake: The Trangia Triangle does indeed look like the clickstand, not the Westwind.
Let say as it is , Clickstand was an intelligent and efficient tool, Trangia Triangle is a poor copy, legally possible as Clickstand is not patented. A real Trangia shame, like the "ultra light" series.
Of course, all respect to opinion opposite to mine.
I'm really surprised at the negativity of this thread in the assessment of the Trangia Triangle. I've tried a variety of ultra-light meths burners over the years, including the old Mini-Trangia, 'Honey stove' etc, and I honestly think it is the best in this class that I have ever used.
The Trangia Triangle is stable unlike so many of the others, phenomenally hot burning especially when used with pure Methanol, and I have never failed to be able to rig up an adequate improvised windbreak even on top of Scottish mountains in seriously unpleasant conditions.
Also all the components can be carried inside the small size tin from a standard British army mess tin set, which I find easier to fit into a small pack than a cylindrical lump. So for super-lightweight solo use I can't fault it for practicality. And of course the mess tin is then the perfect size for heating your gourmet boil-in-the-bag rations ... yummy! So why the big downer on this amazing little piece of kit?
As I read this thread, the various systems don't seem to be compared in a "super-lightweight" context.
Super-lightweight hikers should be ashamed to use more than bit of esbit tablet and a bottle cap for cooking.
A consumer product specialist once told me that the original is always the best. The me-too products have to compromise to avoid patent problems and have a lower cost than the original, which sets the standard.
The Clikstand is such a superb product that it's not surprising that people prefer it over the Trangia Triangle or the similar Esbit Stainless Steel Stove. The Trangia lacks the windscreen supports. The Esbit is too small to allow use of a simmer lid plus it also lacks windscreen supports.
On the plus side, the Trangia and Esbit pack truly flat.
Ultralight hikers aren't going to use ANY of these products. If you only need to boil, they're overkill. But if you want to cook, the Clikstand provides great efficiency and stability for a minimal weight penalty.
13 Jan.16, brew up with Trangia Triangle near Lamisik Ford* on England /Scotland Border. Before carrying on up the appalling Clarke Sike, up to and over Hobbs Flow floating bog to the Bloody Bush border crossing toll pillar.
* aka 'Scotch Knowe' according to Ordnance Survey (but no-one else!)
To add fuel to the fire ...
Sorry, to help inform the debate ...
I've used a Triangle for some time now. I can't comment on the Clikstand or Esbit alternatives - never used them - but I can say the Triangle is a real surprise.
With burner support, wire for potstand and foil for windshield it packs flat, down to less than postcard size and that's more important to me than weight.
It's as near as quick as a stormkök set as makes no difference and I have managed scrambled egg in an actual pan so you can do proper cooking with it should you need to.
It is a compromise, like everything else. The 25-2 is a better cooker, no doubt, but there's a lot of bulk to cart around there. Pick the tool for the job and accept that there will always be compromises.
Don't underestimate Sweden's smaller offerings, even if they weren't first to market.
I wonder if Triangle could gain the windshield feature of the Clikstand by using 3 foldback file clips on each the corners:
Bulldog Foldback Letter Clips Metal Paper Binder Grip Receipt Filing Binding | eBay
NB Trangia's online shop does not seem to dispatch the Triangle to the USA, presumably* to avoid stepping on Clikstands's toes (although the Trangia design is different (flatter) with more air flow around burner from wire support? and thus I would view as an improvement if it hadn't then taken a step back by removing windshield supports to make a draw? ).
I asked Trangia why the Triangle is not available for sale in/to the USA:
Skickat: den 30 september 2020
I have a question regarding the Trangia Triangle. Why is it unavailable for sale to the USA? I would like to purchase one, but your webshop says no sales to the USA, and I can not find a supplier here.
This is their reply:
Thank you for you email, happy to hear that you are a true Trangia user!
We are not allowed to sell the trangia triangle in the US cause of patent issues so Im sorry about that.
Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards
While not coming right out and saying it's a conflict with URSA/Clikstand, I guess it could be presumed that is why.
I am wondering why Clikstand doesn't seem to have more visible market presence here in the USA (the last copyright update to their site was 2017* (*as of this writing)). It's almost like the company doesn't exist, and their product is difficult to find unless you buy directly from them. Seems like a weird marketing strategy to me.
I have an early titanium Clikstand (with no windscreen). I really want to get a genuine Trangia Triangle, and will probably take the necessary extra steps to get one shipped to me, not only for comparison, but because I like Trangia stuff.
I don't see the big deal about the Triangle not having windscreen support tabs, or why people (particularly on this forum) complain about the Triangle to no end.
I see plenty of people online (like in countless Youtube videos) who love the heck out of them, and having no windscreen tabs doesn't ruin their lives or cooking experiences. I / they use a different style or type of windscreen (like a generic MSR type aluminum windscreen, small foldable one, etc) or natural features like rocks, downed logs, etc for wind protection.
Are they available in Canada?
Have a friend ship one or two.
I have a Canadian friend.
The Trangia Triangle is available in Canada.
In fact, I might be down this week to MEC - an outdoor retailer in Canada.
They are clearing out the Trangia items.
They had some Triangles in stock last week....I'll check it out this week.
Otherwise, they are available online at CanadianOutdoorEquipment for $41.75 CAD.
I do believe they ship to the USA.
BTW the Trangia fuel bottle is now banned in Canada...not sure why either.
Triangle at Canadian Outdoor
The Trangia bottle had some writing changed to stay legal in the USA. The use of gasoline, as listed in the writing was removed. Something to do with a Child Protection Act as I recall.
I had a few shipped from Amazon that had the word "Gasoline" marked out with a black marker. Later the bottles had it removed from the writing. Same product, different words.
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