NOT a classic stove

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  1. Blueflame

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    I have several, actually a lot of good quality stoves in my inventory but I was intrigued by what is available in 3rd world countries. So I ordered this Indian made stove from the "Bay".....as the arrangement looked interesting.

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    Not surprising the brand shown here is not the brand shown on the bay. The packaging was not intended for long distances, poor quality cardboard and plenty of poly wrap.



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    First casualty was this very poor weld on the fuel tube where I assume it took a battering somewhere along the way.



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    The poor quality of the manufacturing is told by the supplied spares package. One complete burner, 4 prickers (???) and a spirit cup etc.



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    Fuel cap with bleeder (air purge)



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    Pump....this is the poorest part of the stove. Shaft is too thin for the cap hole, very wobbly to use...pumps only once in 3 strokes. But it does work.



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    The pump cup is made of a pressed fiber (paper ?), but not to worry as a plentiful supply , about 24 are found in a plastic bag.



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    Another problem is the very shallow threads on everything that is threaded....so that cross threading is the likely result if one is in a hurry .


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    Remember this name


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    But it does work and I suppose that's why natives buy them.



    In conclusion...not a collector's item. Bad welds, poor threads, flimsy materials.....BUT a HUGE tank for long operation and made to hold large pots.

    I will keep this, warts and all...after a few repairs and appreciate the quality stoves from elsewhere. Mind you, this is made for those in less fortunate places and is a necessity for them.
     
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    With the probable failure rate it'll probably be either rare or a classic of some sort in very few years. :)

    In which case it may have been a wise investment.
     
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    Glad to see that review, @Blueflame. I’ve seen those advertised.

    Strange to have an old technology kerosene burner named ‘Computer’.

    Shallow burner threads like that are an issue with the Liberty burners I’ve tried out.

    John
     
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    Great purchase!
    I've hovered over the buy-it-now for one of these a few times but havent yet taken the plunge. :thumbup: :content:

    Alec.
     
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    Interesting, good to see. Thank you for buying and sharing with us. Something like that would be perfect for canning out in the sunroom or on the back porch.

    Quite a step up from a dung fire. Stoves like that are the answer to prayers for entire villages, in some places.
     
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    Nearer or further away from pressing the button now you’ve read Blueflame’s review Alec?!!

    John
     
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    One thing about the pump cups...is it made of fiber because of the non existance of cowhide in India?. BTW, I was surprised at the speed of shipping...less than 14 days.Some of my China purchases take months.
     
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    Anyone got a link?
     
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    Thanks
     
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    @Blueflame ,

    Many thanks for an excellent review, and for the photos to support it! Well done! I have a couple of India-made, Prabhat appliances, one stove, and one lantern, and they are actually not too bad in the quality. Lighter materials, yes, and machining is not perfect (shallow threads, etc.), but they are worth owning, is is your "Eveready" stove. Years ago, SB and I worked in Peru for almost a month, and whilst there, I found a Peruvian "Franken-stove", and posted photos of it here. Made far more robustly than is your India-made stove, it is very similar in design, to yours. Please check the following link, so you can see how close the Peruvian is to yours, in concept, if not execution.

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/peruvian-frankenstove.28476/

    Thanks, again, for an enjoyable report and photos! Take care, and God Bless!

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    Thank you Blueflame, for this report. My finger has danced back and forth over the "Buy Me" button on this one quite a few times, but something kept me from pulling the trigger. I really don't know now if I'm closer to getting one or further away. The adventurer in me keeps saying, "It'll be fun to play with!" I don't know if I'll jump, but the thing does fascinate me.
     
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    it reminds me a bit of the paella burners you buy in the spanish diy stores made from enamelled iron pipe. locally they probably sell for a fraction of the ebay price but that's the way the world works and hopefully it will advance the company a bit further.

    hammered out in a series of garage workshops but made by hand so can be repaired by hand. not surprised at the lack of a leather washer but fibre?

    I wonder if the spare burner is sent because the alloy can melt/slowly blow away.

    still an indian housewife would probably be very open to conjugals for quite a while after receiving one.
     
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    that aint no patio that's a terrace that is, i got a patio it measures 9 by 6, feet that is, yes - you got a mighty fine terrace there.
     
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    Since you(Rickybob) have commented twice now ( another post this year) I took 2 photos to show you the complete "terrace". Most homes here in Canada have a wooden "Deck", but I like the permanency (Is that a word?) of brick, concrete, ceramic tiles and flagstone. It is here where my stoves are fired up.

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    @Blueflame, it is due to cows being sacred in the Hindu religion in India, and pigs being a unclean animal to the Indian Muslims. Ergo, make the pump cups out of paper, not leather, and one and all can curse the operation of the damn stove!

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    From THIS source:
    ... and from THIS source:
    The Indian leather pump cups I’ve tried are in fact made of leather, but are poorly cured (stiff) and give the impression of being made of fibre.

    John
     
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    Leather is not restricted to cowhide I believe, so are we looking at other animal sources in view of the religious restrictions in India?
    Goat, camel, others???
     
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    No, it’s cowhide. Though laws in theory restrict the use of only the hides of naturally deceased animals (still a huge source) the profits encourage an illicit trade in slaughtered animal hides that’s responsible for the quoted figures.
     
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    @presscall, learned something new today! I would have thought it was an issue akin to the Indian Rebellion of 1857 and the Enfield cartridges.

    Murph