Optimus 111 Cleaning Needle

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  1. HWW

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    How did you set the timing of the cleaning needle, I’m having all kinds of issuses with the burner leaking. I watched a few vids & understand the 3-5 clicks & all that but i can get it to click! Any help or advice would be gratefully received.
     
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    Welcome to CCS.

    If I understand your query.

    Hold the cleaning needle with the pricker stuck in a pencil eraser.
    Place the cleaning needle on the gear/spindle, cleaning needle teeth left, with the jet removed, and the valve is fully closed.

    The weight of the pencil and the cleaning needle, with the spindle now turning CCW, anti-clockwise. Each time the gear tooth 'clicks' the cleaning needle you should feel it.
    That is the 'click' that is meant.

    After the number of clicks is achieved you turn the spindle CW all the way, the cleaning needle should drop down into the vaporizer, pull off the eraser, replace the jet and check the setting.
    Try 3, then 4, then 5.

    You want the valve to shut off when CW all the way and the needle to poke through the jet when CCW all the way.

    I hope that helps.

    Ken in NC
     
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    I’ve seen that on vids but as the burner cup is fixed on a 111 (not B D or T) you can’t get any purchase on the needle rack to get the clicks?
     
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    Hi and welcome
    The Optimus 111 will work without a cleaning needle and because it has others issues, I think it is a good idea to fix them first then finalize with the cleaning needle.
    What are your others issues?
    N/B- Pictures are always welcome

    Welcome again
     
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    Then I would watch it jump and count the jumps as clicks.
     
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    Brilliant...I sort of thought that after watching a video on YouTube where the chap used a cotton bud, but I wasn’t sure as I a Bernidawg vid there is an audible click. I’ll get everything cleaned up & try again. Thank you for your help.
     
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    You are welcome. BD is good at this fettling stuff. I am hard of hearing, so the click to me is not there.
    The jump may be subtle, so watch carefully as you turn the spindle slowly.

    Oh, by the way ...
    We love photos of stoves here.

    Ken in NC
     
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    It seems that you may have the roarer 111 - and that burner has a slightly different needle instruction.
    This instruction seems to be the easiest to read - remember to start from closed when counting clicks.
     
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    Thanks for this very useful information. I will give it ago this week & report back.