Optimus 111 embossed probably 1953/54-ish.

Discussion in 'Optimus No:111 (all variants) + later Hiker & Hike' started by Staffan Rönn, Sep 2, 2020.

  1. Staffan Rönn

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    "I don't need another Eleventy-one, I certainly don't need another Eleventy-one!..." I was telling myself as I was browsing the local auction site a few weeks ago. "But wait - there's one with a green cookie cutter...Do I have a stove with a green cookie cutter? - No. Do I need a green cookie cutter in my collection? - Yes, probably desperately."

    So here we go.

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    As it shows, this is a pretty early 111. Probably this version came after the very first 111 that had the dark green case like the 11, no wind shield on the burner and black cookie cutter control handle with tactile lettering (example: Early Optimus 111)

    The time markers on my unit are among other things:
    • Old style case hinges.
    • Old style clip inside case to hold burner in place when stove is folded/closed.
    • Maintenance tool with open keys.
    • No cut-out for the closure of the case.
    • Burner with hexagonal base.
    • Burner without hole for pouring down preheating fuel.
    • Burner wind shield with scoop opening for pouring preheating fuel.
    • Green cookie cutter handle on control spindle.
    • Instructions manual no. 79 that does not also cover the 22 double burner range. The 22 was introduced around 1955, and manual no. 79 was then edited to also cover the 22 and the spirit can no. 69.
    All in all my guess is that this one is later than the first version (1952) but prior to the launch of the 22 (1955) thus estimating it to 1953/54.

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    As it turned out to be quite an early and rare unit, I equipped it with a new wiper rag (comfort blanket) that a very kind CCS member once helped me source. These stoves were originally supplied with wiper rags.

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    The stove probably had not been used much, it's in pretty good shape. A pressure test in a bucket with water revealed the need to replace NRV and tank lid packing. Pump leather was in good condition but needed lubrication and softening up. With these small fixes, it was time for a brew test.

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    Burns perfectly nice. Cleaning needle works. Boils half a litre of water in no-time.

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    Then I thought, why don't I make a little "concerto" with three different cookie cutter color Eleventy-ones? Said and done. Here they are playing away in "allegro" tempo.

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    Colors don't come out very strong on this mobile photo, but from left to right we have green, white and burgundy red.

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    I think they make up a great team.
     
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    Excellent! That’s a very good find. I’m glad it’s found a good home.

    Cheers

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    Very nice ! :thumbup:
     
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    "I don't need another elenenty-one..." Sure? :lol:
     
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    Excellent trio!
     
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    What? I can’t hear you!! Just kidding, but I bet the neighbors thought a jet was taking off at your house! Beautiful stove, just a bit older than my own one and only. Brad
     
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    Staffan (@Staffan Rönn ),

    HOLY MOLY CHICKEN SOUP!!!! That is one fantastic and lovely set of triplets!!! I just love looking at them, all together, and your family portrait shows off this family, just right!! Oh, yeah! Drooling, and coveting, and very happy for you, Good Sir!! A most excellent score, indeed! Thanks for sharing, and God Bless!

    Doc
     
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    Thanks for comments, glad you all like the little trio. And yes @pau-i-amor - it's quite challenging to convince oneself sometimes...

    Anyhow - tried to tweak the colors a bit on the family portrait hoping the different color cookie cutters would come through better, but I don't really have the software or app for that. Here's just one with cranked contrast, light and color to the max.

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    Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
    Beautiful.

    Ken
     
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    Sorry @Doc Mark and @snwcmpr , now you got me drifting...

    Chicken soup and chicken dinner,
    no dessert you will stay thinner.
    Struck with pox, eternal sinner
    get new stove, become a grinner!
    New green cutter, you’re the winner!!

    I don't know if it's chicken pox or the other pox that gives you delirium...;)
     
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    Pretty stoves. :)
    Is there any significance in the different colours of the 'cookie cutter' controls?
     
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    Staffan,

    That's a brilliant bit of poetry, Good Sir! Very clever, and fun! Thanks for that.

    Doc
     
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    Very good Staffan!
     
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    Very nice collection of stoves but I'm most impressed with your knowledge of them. It's easy to look at the chart to date Primus stoves but dating stoves using small detail changes takes a true detective. You should think about posting a tutorial on dating 111's.

    Ben
     
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    Yes, a nice bit of writing.
    And, to write poetry in a second language. Well done, sir.
     
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    Very, very, very nice thrice very nice that is.
    As good as it gets, thank you.

    I post to state the obvious it is a very nice, very early "No.111" with "nr.11" instructions, a 4th very nice contribution here in (not a paper that has posted before as far as i know).
    We presume it is one sided w/o any printer code, date clues?
    My thanks again for this and the bounty of knowledge you regularly share with us.
     
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    Thank you all for very nice comments! I truly appreciate it. :thumbup::thumbup: Strange what the pox can do to an adult man...

    @Ian - from what I have seen so far, the green control knobs are early on the 111, and the first ones with sunken lettering in contrasting color. The previous knob was a black one with slightly different shape and tactile lettering. Other than that I don't know if there is any significance in the difference in colors.

    @OMC - the manual is very fragile, in thin paper with worn folds. When I first opened it with care, I thought it said "11", but actually there's a rip just in that fold and the print is actually 111. The manual is in four languages. I'll flatten it out carefully and scan and post it in the reference library later as I have not seen this version of manual No. 79 before, only the one that also covers the 22. Below are quick shots of the English version.

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    That is such a lovely line up Staffan, you inspired me to look through my 111s. Sadly no very early 111 as yet and no green cookie cutter. The hunt continues.