Optimus 91 - Purple Flame

Discussion in 'Optimus No:91' started by Simes, May 31, 2019.

  1. Simes

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    With thanks to @Wim for his table at Newark for today's photo shoot.

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    For some reason the frying pan seems to be tarnished, why I have no idea as nothing else has been used.
     
  2. SveaSizzler

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    Nice set.
    Is the alco burner a Trangia, or Svea-made copy? And is it the ~9 cm Swedish military or the 7.5cm civilian type?

    A few years ago Esbit contracted with a Chinese plant to produce a near-identical copy of the smaller Trangia. It only differed in having alternating larger-and-smaller feed holes, where the original had uniform hole diameters. [And no big ''T'' embossed on the bottom.] The German firm's plan backfired. When the Esbit production run ended, the Chinese continued to pump out the Trangia copies in ever-cheaper iterations. Now the market's flooded with them. When I ordered the Esbit alco burner, I thought it was German-made.

    The only unfired stove I have is a Chinese copy of the Trangia-Primus 25/27 gassie, and the only reason it's still unfired is that I have no Trangia pot set -- yet.
    Actually I also have a crossbrace over/stove set of [Chinese] stainless steel as yet unfired. It's much like the [Japanese] Evernew titanium cross that fits the 7.5cm burners nicely. I got it so I could file/grind off a little metal on the inside diameter and have it fit over the military Svea burner. Once it fits it will no longer be unfired.

    I appreciate a collector's preference to save unfired stoves for posterity. But personally, if I can't play with it now, it's just not fun.
     
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    @Simes Maybe original owner had two of those kits for family travel, but from this set they only needed to use frying pan in another 91 they had.

    @SveaSizzler If I remember correctly in my 91 burner is Optimus. Although who knows which company had made it...
     
  4. Simes

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    @SveaSizzler, @Afterburner.

    As I am currently stranded in Newark waiting for the van doctor to do his stuff I'll see if I can have a closer look.

    The was a seller on the Bay when I first joined CCS who had a rather large quantity and was selling them off. Don't remeber how much they were but I bought one because they were cheap, never intended as a user. Just sat on a shelf ever since.

    As I say I don't actually remember using it even as a test fire, but I've slept several times since then. :)
     
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    You can easily see the "burner seat" in the windshield has the smaller 7.5cm hole as it should be in all civilian versions later than 77A(that had "military size civilian style" burner in most cases).
    In that era civilian Optimus the burner would normally be Optimus branded but maybe produced by another factory.
     
  6. Lennart F Sweden

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    Ps. I like to have a "new" or "nearly new" example beside a usie or battered one:)