Primus 210 with a silent burner also fits Optimus 00

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  1. Plantpot United Kingdom

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    Hi all,

    Here's one for you... I just bought a 210 that is fitted with a silent burner, the burner cap with all the tiny holes is marked Primus Sweden.

    I think this is a Frankenstove, the fount is marked T/6 (1920's??) look at the soldering around the burner connection fitting... looks homemade.

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    The burner fits on my 00 stove so I thought I would test it, pictures attached. as I am waiting for a seal kit etc for the 210, I have managed to get the NRV out and am soaking a new pump leather.

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    The stove gets hot, is this normal or am I sitting on a paraffin bomb?

    Whats your advice on this odd stove (which I love to bits by the way!) Flame Pics below and any advice is very welcome!

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    21 views and no advice, whats up america?
     
  3. Ed Winskill

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    It is a Frankie, because it has a silent burner.

    The small keroburners will get pretty hot, but this is of no concern. Indeed, they will often self-pressurize when hot, obviating the need for the occasion pump.
     
  4. Doc Mark

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    @Plantpot ,

    Welcome to CCS! As I've played around with adding silent burners to 00's, and other stoves, including a 96, yes, indeed, the fuel tanks get very hot! If you wish for your Frankie to run less hot, you can make a shield for it, which slides on over, and rests upon the spirit cup, once the priming has burned off, the stove has fired up nicely. Scroll to page 46 in the link below to see the heat shield I'm discussing:

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/1937-primus-catalogue-no-362.37079/

    And, here's the heat deflector about which I'm talking. Scroll to page 36 and look at the item on the top right of the page in this link. That's the ticket to keep your fuel tank heat under control. You can make something like that, fairly easily, I'm betting. Give this a squint, and see what you think.

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/1937-primus-catalogue-no-362.37079/

    I hope this helps you. Let us know, if you decide to undertake this project. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
  5. Ray123

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    T stamp would make it 1929. The burner connector style seems appropriate. It could be a solder repair that's a bit sloppy. I can't see how replacing the original roarer burner with a silent sometime in the last 91 years makes this a Frankenstove.
     
  6. pysen78

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    It could be that the riser is from an optimus 45. That's the preferred part to use when mating a larger burner with a 00 tank.
     
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    Hi @Plantpot you can perhaps identify the silent burner on your stove by checking the cap dimensions against these figures:


    You also asked about hot fuel tanks. Have a look at this thread and the links within it:

    RM 1 pinter Very hot tank?

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
  9. Plantpot United Kingdom

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    Looks like a primus 4 burner 38mm 5 rows of holes and a domed top.

    I like this little creation, it was a cheap find of ebay that nobody wanted and came from the dreaming spires of Oxford, UK from a chap called Simon, who knows he may even be on here.

    Well its gone to a new home and will be cared for when the seal kit arrives. It burns really really well from a quiet roar to a low simmer. I am glad its not a paraffin bomb!

    Thanks to @kerophile @pysen78 @Ray123 @Doc Mark and @Ed Winskill for the great advice and knowledge
     
  10. gideon

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    i did the same with 207 regulated burner