Primus No.30 (1921)

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  1. Tony Press

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    Here is my Primus No.30 (1921). It came with the small silent burner, not a roarer.

    This stove was originally sold in Australia by Brandt Bros (Sydney).

    It is a beautiful little stove and is now one of my favourites.


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    The Brandt Bros. plate.
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    The bits (A/B B. A. Hjorth & Co Stockholm):
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    The silent burner does not carry a part number, but looks the same as the No. 4204 burner on my 1947 Primus 210.
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    As it came (I removed a lot of pasty solder).

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    First lighting after fettling:

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    High flame.
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    Reproduction pressed steel small trivet.
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    It easily accounted for 1 litre of cold water.
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    I needed to do some fettling on this stove, mainly to get rid of all of the pasty solder around the burner riser and filler cap. I will post the fettle on this stove later in the week.

    Brandt Bros no longer exists as a stand alone company with a shop front. It was bought by TW Sands (Melbourne, Australia) quite some time ago.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  2. threedots New Zealand

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    Nice fettle Tony.:thumbup:
    I can see why it is one of your favourites.:)
    Cheers, John
     
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    Very nice find mate.


    Si
     
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    Tony that is is a really nice stove and you have photographed it well for the CCS archives.

    I have not seen many examples of this Primus fixed leg, one pint stove. Yours is made much rarer by having the 'Brandt Bros' distributor's badge.

    It always was a powerful stove for its tank size because it normally came with the same roarer burner (R127) as the two pint No. 1 stove.
    However, as it has a fixed tank riser the burner could easily be changed for the silent burner (R133) as used on the two pint Primus No. 5 stove or the slightly smaller silent burner (R132) used on the No.4 stove.
     
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    How good is that, well done, a very nice restoration to be proud of.

    Cheers
    Rob
     
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    I have sister stoves, No.30 and No.34, they are great favourites of mine.
    Size and power output are ideal for most tasks, the No.5 can be awkward to stow away.

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    Hi Tony

    Your stove is from 1921 and so I quoted information from the 1922 catalogue here, and your stove specifically from here.
     
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    Trevor

    I'm sorry if I gave the impression I was contradicting you comments above. I was only trying to post all the links I could find in the Library, and the burners they were illustrated with (as this one came sans-roarer). The last link I used was the 1922catalogue.

    I've been using this little beast this morning. I like it very much.

    I need, though, to get a replacement period "a/b B. A. HJORTH & Co. Sweden" pump cap, as the one it came with is severely cross-threaded.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    The pump tube caps always have very fine threads and once cross threading has occurred it is almost impossible to un-cross them.
    Is it the cap that has the crossed threads or the pump tube? Sods Law says it will be the cap.

    I also like the stove a lot. Its proportions are very attractive.
    Is the tank the same size and shape as similar period 210?
     
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    I'll check it out against the 210s I've got (last time I looked they were breeding in my shed while I wasn't looking...).

    It is the cap that is cross threaded, not the tube. Any other small diameter Primus pump cap will tighten, no worries. As a matter of fact the pump cap has been abused - it has a chip out of it, as well as being cross threaded. At the moment all is fine, because I have used some threading goo (non-hardening) to keep it in place.

    I'll put a "Wanted" add for a replacement. If worse comes to worse, I'll get another pump cap off a common-or-garden pump and cut the threaded bit off and braze it to the original cap.

    I'll probably post the fettle for this stove tonight.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Tony ,
    i think i have the cap you want .
    phone message left .

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    Thanks, Kerry.

    I'll be in touch. Ignore what I said in my last comment about the pump. I need a cap that says "Primus Made in Sweden". (I was mixing my pump and filler caps up).

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    I once made me this little overview of the smallest fixed leg stoves and their burners.

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    I have a No 0 stove, never even seen a No 4. A No 4 or even better a No 34 is high on my wish list. So far I only have a couple of burners.

    The smallest and the bigger burners have different threads on them and are not interchangeable. You can however fit a R132 to a No 0 stove, or a R127 to a No 4 stove.

    The R127/4127 is the same burner as fitted to the No 210.

    All the best, e

    PS. Who find the typos?
     
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    Your stovest has leggs...

    But what about Nos 2&3?

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Bingo!:lol::lol::lol:

    No 2s and No 3s are bigger and my dyslexic list do not go that high – so it seems.8)8)8)

    But seriously, yes there are plenty of more stoves/burner combinations.

    There is also the R126 – a newer version of the R132 before it turns into the 4126 sometimes in the later Twenties.

    Isn’t it fantastic – on can spend half a lifetime and still there are much more to figure out.

    A beautiful stove you have there:clap::clap::clap: – envy envy envy …

    All the best, e
     
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    That is a beautiful stove, Great job it has come up a treat.