Primus no.5 with a ? cookplate

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  1. Longilily

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    Hi Guys
    Im a new member/collector with a primus no.5 (N14)which i acquired with a cast iron plate with 'Cleveland Foundry,Cleveland Ohio USA'on the top,Can any of you experienced enthusiast's give me any background to this Hotplate ?

    P.s Fantastic website guys, I've already whiled away many hours reading old threads, Only joined a couple of days ago

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  2. DAVE GIBSON

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    sounds like an odd ball add-on..can you post some photos?/
     
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    Welcome, welcome, welcome!!! :D :D :D

    As Dave has suggested, a photo or two would let us help you much better.

    It would also be useful if you indicated where in the world you live.
     
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    Welcome to the site.

    I think domestic floor standing stoves came out of Cleveland Foundry - probably a trivet from one of these models a previous owner has stuck on the stove. Not original but if it fits it can only add to the character of the stove.
     
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    Morning guys from a sunny south east Kent, Thanks for replies,Have attached some pics of the trivet on no.5 mid-clean as suggested(well i hope i have,still learning here)
    Found 'Basecamp' from your forum for spares so hopefully find a flame spreader for my Chrome Veritas,outer burner ring for no.5 and new glass for my 'Safe-e-fire,Bk from Holland' paraffin Heater(Pride of place in my lounge).
    Love the site
    Cheers


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  6. DAVE GIBSON

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    Ross hit the nail on the head..thats off a old gas range..nice stove,keep up the polish work and lets see it burn :D ..also check "how to add photos" in the help section so the shots come up along with the post--
     
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    Hi Dave
    Thanks for that, You will see it burn my friend one day very soon, Will take your advice next time and try attaching pics to the mail.

    Only bought it a few days ago at a local 'Boot Fair' for £2, Was amazed to date it to 1924.Wifey's getting very jealous of the stoves attention though !!!

    Kind Regards

    Ray
     
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    Better get an 'outer' burner cap before you light it !
    try Base Camp, in the UK.
     
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    Hi Steve

    Will do, I'm waiting for a reply from basecamp as i type

    Regards

    Ray
     
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    Hi Ray, Nice stove and well worth restoring. Base Camp has some generic silent burner caps which are very good and will suit this stove.
    I too have a pan-ring like yours:

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    You will see that it is clearly marked up with its pedigree:

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    Here it is alongside a conventional pan-ring, you will see that they are of similar size.

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    I can't remember which stove it came with but I do remember that it was wired to the top of the legs with some copper wire.

    I am sure it was not made for a paraffin stove but it does the business, and that is what matters.

    I kept it because it is very good iron casting. It is an intricate shape with thin sections and detailed lettering. It would have required good pattern-making and casting skills, using a cast iron formulation with a lot of fluidity.

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Hi logilily

    I love that pan ring.
    Obviously not meant for the camping-type stove but it fits perfectly.
    The cast-iron rings can easily crack, but I really, really like them! :D
     
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    Hi To All
    Kerophile, Thanks for taking the time to photo your pan ring for me, And thanks for all replies to help me, Nice of Ross to edit my photo's too.Better sign off this thread or it will be longer than Doc's mystery (I loved that Doc, I put it on a par with my Wifey's desire to watch Eastenders).Will enquire into a generic outer burner ring from Basecamp, and hopefully get her burning very soon, I guess you your first stove is the most exciting of all, Yes ???
    I now have an hour to spare so off to the 'Fettling' Section.

    Thanks again to all

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    Ray
     
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    Hello Ray, Safe-a-fire, Bk from Holland? Pride etc. in your livingroom?
    We vant sue no! Report at once! Vit ze pikturs!
    Dutchmike!
     
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    Hi Dutchmike

    It's a 'Saf-e-fire'Blue flame heater made by BK from Holland and imported by the Royal Campen works of Moorgate London and was available in the UK till the mid 60's and retailed at £8-10 shillings including tax.
    It sits in my lounge within eyeshot and often fire her up.I think she's in lovely condition and well made.The whole of the upper body rotates using the handle to adjust the flame.

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    You may note the flat top, Its original booklet say's its capable of cooking on though i hav'nt tried it (Yet)

    Kind Regards

    Ray
     
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    One for you to show how she glows

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    A bit shaky but it gives you an idea.
    Lovely to have within eyeshot in the evenings

    Regards

    Ray
     
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    Oooooh ... Thats NICE :) .
    Lovely bit o'blue .

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    Somewhat similar to the Alladin's...
     
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    Yes, quite lovely indeed.

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    Hello Ray, sorry for not having responded sooner; I still have to figure how to become informed on a further thread. But these pictures show me a heater I have not seen before. Mind you, I have very little knowledge about them, but it seems the british Valor is much more represented in the Netherlands than this BK product! BK still is with us, but known nowadays for their quality pots and pans. I am impressed with the blue flame and see your point about enjoying it in your living room. Thank you for posting these pictures!
    Regards, Mike
     
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    hi: the cleveland foundry made a line of kitchen cook stoves. what you have is not a trivet or hotplate it is the burner grate that sits on the stamped steel stove top, some tops were cast, most were not ; note extending ears that keep it from falling through and in place. mike...