Primus No:505 *

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  1. lant-ern

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    I was in a friends garage yesterday and seen a stove I've never seen or heard of before.
    When I got the dust off it, it was a Primus 505.
    I cleaned the dirt off the bottom and it was dated "D" and a D4 stamped off to one side.
    Was this model uncommon or do I just need to do my homework?
    The only thing I could find on the net was a photo in Peter Watchorns gallery.
    I'm going to make him an offer for it. Were these stoves popular?

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    Old & uncommon - go for it!
     
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    This was my 505 that I seen in my friends garage.He gave it to me. No charge.Wow!!
    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    Very, very Nice :!: That is a beauty for sure.
     
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    Was this from the dawn of kero burners? :?:
     
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    Not the dawn but still relatively early. The control on that burner was registered in 1904. I have 2 undated references to the stove both thought to be c1906 to 1910. In later material I have the stove is no more. Any chance of a photo of the date stamp which puts this one at 1914?

    Hard to tell from the pics but I think the dial on the burner has been replaced with a toggle of some sort.
     
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    Yes the control wheel was replaced with wood.
    What would the knob have been made from?

    Here's a photo of the date stamp.

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    I don't know the name for the material used but it had the look of some sort of compressed particle or fibre material.

    I know design features sometimes appear before the patents. I have however just checked a 1903 cataogue & there is no sign of this stove in it.
     
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    Bakelite ?
     
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    I was looking for old Primus patents the other day and found the one for this burner. It can be found here.

    The patent is in swedish, but the drawing is good and gives an idea of the wheel. You won't find it in a 1903 cataogue as it was first patented in 1904.

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    Hi Guzz,
    Nice find!
    The Austrian patent for that burner, submitted August 1904 is also on this site in the Patents section

    I appreciate it's unlikely to be in any catalogues earlier than that but 'unlikely' isn't enough to stop me checking :lol:

    If you find any patents not already on the site they would be most welcome. It's good to get them in one place. I will add the Swedish patent to the Austrian one on the new site.
     
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    A wheel of an old Coleman quick lite lantern or lamp looks like a good replacement similar to original - nice find!!
     
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    My computer has been down for a few days :( .I wish they had the working life of some of the stoves we collect! What was the reason the 505 stoves seemed to have been made for such a short period of time?Was there problems with the valve or was it to costly to make at that time?The detail in the paten shows just how much extra work must have gone into making the 505. I think the Coleman quick lite wheel would look good, but I'm not sure how I could fasten it on .What was the" d4 "stamp on the bottom of the font? :?: ?{April 1914}?? :?: ??Thanks for the info.

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    It may have been discontinued for all sorts of reasons - most likely an improvement in production methods with new tooling coinciding with a change of numbering. It would be interesting to see if there was a 505 with the burner that superceded the one shown.

    The No:14 was a later relative.

    Not sure what the D4 was for although I know it wasn't date related.