Radius pricker question

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  1. igh371

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    Hidden amongst a few packets of Radius brand jet prickers I have one which has me stumped.
    The other packets are all marked "0/87", and these seem to fit most 'normal' stoves, no.1s, 5s etc.
    The puzzle packet is marked "70/87", and this one lists applications with no.s 70-85 and 170-185. Does anyone know what these applications are?

    I haven't managed to find any help in the reference gallery.


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    Hi @igh371 . This pack of Radius prickers seem to be marked 100/87. The stoves listed seem to use jets with a 0.23 mm diameter aperture and the cleaning wire was measured at 0.21mm diameter:

    Pricker Radius

    “For stove Nos 25, 42, 100, 100 L and blow lamp 48.”

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    Interesting link George, so that is yet another pack designation. There must be some logic to the Radius pricker pack numbering system, but I'm not seeing it:doh:
     
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    Hi @igh371 , have a look at this Rosetta tablet from FOGAS:

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    I would assume that they are cleaning needles for the little blowlamps No.70 and 170.
    Radius were pretty consistent with placing the apparatus model number before the slash and the part number after it in their spare parts designations.
    Like /87 for the cleaning needles we discuss here. And e.g. /28 for jets, to mention another spare part.
    So to mention another example, the cleaning needle for the 119 lantern is 119/87, while the jet is 119/28.
    Just as 130/87 and 130/28 for the lantern called 130, etc.

    Same thing for most spare parts from Radius; apparatus first, a slash, and then the actual part.

    When the part would fit many models, they just used one of the apparatus as designation, like the stove No. 0 which gave the name to pricker 0/87, which still fits an array of stoves (as does the jet 0/28).
    Hence the already mentioned 100/87, which is for the stove No.100, and a bunch of others with that size of jet.

    There are two Radius blowlamps model 70 and 170, so if you have prickers called 70/87, I bet they are intended for those little petrol lamps.
     
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    Hi @igh371 I have looked at some Radius catalogues.
    The part number coding used by Radius appears to be based on :

    Apparatus or stove number for the first digit(s) then / and the second two digits indicate function.

    Hence Part No. 0/28 is a jet for a No.0 stove.

    And Part No. 100/87 is a picker for a No.100 stove.

    If follows that your 0/87 is a pricker for or a No.0 stove.

    Your puzzle pack marked 70/87 contains prickers ( the 87 coding) intended for an “apparatus” No.70. However, there is no kerosene-fuelled Radius No.70 stove according to catalogues held by CCS so one might assume that a Radius No.70 is a lamp or blow-lamp.....

    Trust this helps.
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    Considering that I wrote about that very blowlamp No 70 and its sibling 170 in my post just above, where I also explained the actual logic of Radius designations for spares, I think you might be assuming right ;) :lol:


    My pleasure!
    Do they look like regular hand operated prickers as we are used to for the stoves? Perhaps the needle is a bit large since they are petrol lamps.

    An example of a Radius 70:
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    Hi, the listing of stove models which use the 70/87 cleaning needle also includes the Radius No.71 blowlamp, which I believe is Petrol/gasoline- fuelled:

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    F962612C-4B13-4EED-A8FD-91853FFBF1C9.jpeg

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    Hi, Today I checked the aperture size of the jet fitted to this Radius No.71 blowlamp. The 0.32 mm cleaning needle would not enter, the 0.23 mm cleaning needle is a nice firm fit.
    The jet aperture is 0.23 mm diameter.

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    Hi, Please disregard the above post.
    I have just been into my garage to recover this Radius No.71 blowlamp, I unscrewed the jet and took it into the house for closer examination with an jewellers eye loupe and better light

    A few days ago I managed to prick this jet with a 0.23mm nominal diam pricker after an effort as the jet was blocked. I have now managed to get a new 70/87 pricker through the remaining gunk! So the Radius No.71 jet is clearly 0.32 mm diameter. My earlier post was wrong.

    @igh371 @Christer Carlsson

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    Ah, that's good to know.
    I thought it sounded more correct with the larger orifice for a petrol lamp, even if it's a small one.