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Regulated burner cutaway

Discussion in 'Fettling Forum' started by lanevitt, Aug 14, 2010.

  1. lanevitt United Kingdom

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    In my early days of messing around with stoves i was repairing an Optimus 99. i purchased a servie kit for it from Basecamp... fitted it okay, but didn't get to sort out the relationship between the cleaning needle and spindle. Now knowing this "5 click " system (this is how i came to find CCS) i wanted to get to grips with this idea and fully understand what is what within the burner itself.

    Here are a series of pictures

    1281775769-c1_opt.jpg 1281775784-c2_opt.jpg 1281775795-c3_opt.jpg 1281775804-c4_opt.jpg 1281775812-c5_opt.jpg 1281775820-c6_opt.jpg 1281775830-c7_opt.jpg

    Here is a thread where the 5 clicks are mentioned in depth .... https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/3082
     
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  2. teletim United Kingdom

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    Fantastic pictures,I think they will help a lot of people trying to set up a new needle.
     
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    Crikey Andrew, you're a dab hand with the old junior hacksaw. Two stoves for the price of one?

    Fascinating to see those burner details. I'm still reeling from that one you did on a Svea external NRV set-up.

    Brilliant!

    I fear though you may become known as the Gunther von Hagens of stovedom ...

    Doctor Autopsy

    I'll politely decline any requests for donor stoves, Andrew, before you ask ...

    All the best,

    John
     
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    Sparky United States Subscriber

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    One picture is worth a thousand words; you've just spoken volumes! Thanks so much for the photos and the effort you put into it!
     
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    nice one Andy :clap: :clap:
    but where does the graphite packing go ? :whistle: ;) :lol:

    atb Bill
     
  6. lanevitt United Kingdom

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    In the bin !! i tried to include the packing but it being a snug fit the spindle kept popping out !
     
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    parramethtrol United Kingdom Subscriber

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    :lol: :lol: nice all the same :thumbup:
    it explains why you get the ridge in worn spindles looking at how they seat inside the burner.
    i never even thought about it before but the pics show it perfectly
     
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    Spiritburner United Kingdom Admin Subscriber

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    Very interesting! What is it the burner tube seems to be lined with?
     
  9. Knight84 Canada

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    Brilliant work Andrew,

    Where is the cleaning needle?

    Yes what is the tube lined with? Steel? But why :-k

    Jeff
     
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    High speed hot gasses cause erosion in soft brass?
     
  11. lanevitt United Kingdom

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    1281854559-P1010059_opt.jpg

    Here is a picture showing the cleaning needle

    The liner is made from steel. Interesting to see pitting, Cavitation damage maybe ?

    Its also interesting to see deformation around the spindle seat. My guess is a heavy hand when closing the regulator key.
     
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    1281856291-stovie_bits_034_opt.jpg
     
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    Great pics, well done :clap:
     
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    parramethtrol United Kingdom Subscriber

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    :whistle: :whistle: shouldn't the washer be the other side of the graphite packing :doh: ](*,)
    yes i know i'm a pedantic ahole ;) :lol: when your over next you get to give me a slap as i deserve it :roll:
    nice work mate it must of taken hours to cut that out and getting looking so good

    atb Bill
     
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  15. lanevitt United Kingdom

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    Hi Bill

    Only just seen your reply... as a series of "educational" pictures it should be correct. I had filed the packing under B.I.N. and was pleased to have found it, slapped it together and set up the picture.
    Anyone looking at these pictures that are not familiar with the componants and their arrangement:
    To the right of the graphite packing is a brass spacer/washer. This should be fitted BEFORE the graphite packing and not after.
     
  16. Knight84 Canada

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    I think this topic should be moved to some kind of masters section. :-k ;)

    Great work!

    Jeff
     
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    hi Jeff
    if the mods could sort the pics out so that they are grouped together then i think it would be a brilliant topic to have as a sticky somewhere in the fettling forum
    it's probably one of the most educational topics i have seen,
    a few pics and it's obvious where things go and there relationship to other parts in the stove
    it certainly explained to me why you get the groove in a worn spindle, i had wondered about it but not enough to cut a burner apart to find out
     
  18. lanevitt United Kingdom

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    Yes but Bill You "poo poo'd" my poor attention to the spindle assembly !!

    :lol: :lol: ;)
     
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    well i did say i was a pedantic ahole ;) :lol:
    but it proves i was studying your pictures and i was paying attention :thumbup:
    and i have been back several times to look again as it's a good post and set of pics

    now could you cut up a primus 71 burner please so i can take a peek inside

    atb Bill
     
  20. Knight84 Canada

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    Hello gentlemen,

    I think it can be used to help members and new members figure out the 4/5 click cleaning needle setting. So it should stay in the fettling forum to help new members but be a sticky like you said Bill.

    Best Regards,
    Jeff